Eddy2011 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Being a newbi at shot gun shooting I have had my shot gun for a few months now and I am finding that my shot gun is shooting a tad too high so to compensate for this I just go for the legs and its bang on. What would you guys do,would you leave it and adapt like I have done or add some spacers in the stock to extend the stock to bring the aim point down ? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 What gun and what are you shooting at ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy2011 Posted October 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 It's a fFrenchi Fast semi auto 12g and ruff shooting pigeons etc. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Sounds like the stock needs dropping a little! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpler1991 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 I always like my gun shoot a little high not table top flat so you can rest the bead just under the target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy2011 Posted October 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 I am just a tad under the target so I think I will leave it alone besides I am used to it now . Thanks for all the info . Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) It's a fFrenchi Fast semi auto 12g and ruff shooting pigeons etc. cheers Take it to a pattern plate and take at least 3 aimed shots from around 20 yards, IF you truly find that it shoots high then see an experienced gunsmith and ask his advice. My guess is that it is highly unlikely to be shooting much higher than around 40/60 (meaning 60% of the pattern placed above the aiming mark and 40% below). The reason I am confident of this is that it is a standard gun and that is how they're made, very very very few shotguns throw high, in fact it takes extreme gunsmithing/gunmaking skill to make them do so on purpose. My guess is that being a lightish gun you're throwing it up at the fast retreating quarry and shooting above them. Edited October 5, 2014 by Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy2011 Posted October 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Cheers for the info Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I agree with Hamster but thing like lop can also effect poi as well as drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Have someone watch, you may be lifting your head off the stock, let the others be impressed when you hit everything, you don't have to watch it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 I like the easy hit/ruby type fibre optic beads as you can only see the colour when your head is on the stock correctly. After a while of checking you don't notice any more as muscle memory takes over and you don't look at the bead, it's just in your peripheral vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 generally guns shoot high when your eye is too much above the rib, if your shooting ok now you know were it shoots carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashman1 Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 -2 it's a fallacy, guns don't suddenly shoot physically higher just because ones eye is above the rib. To mechanically shoot higher than before a gun needs more sophisticated means, POI barrel hangers are one example. If you don't believe me then just hold out your hand and use your master eye to aim at a small object around you making sure you are looking nearasdammit flat along your finger in the manner of a flat gun/rib situation. Then slowly raise your eye a little whilst doing your absolute best to keep hand and finger pointed as before, what will happen is that you will now see the target object more clearly and the finger will appear to be well below it, easily interpreted as the gun now shooting higher when in fact it is not, it is only your sight picture which has altered. The same applies to a gun clamped in a vice and pointing to an object, viewed with a flat rib picture it points AT it, raise the comb and nothing else and your view of the target will be vastly improved and because it is now sitting above your sight line it gives the impression of higher POI. Higher comb = higher perceived POI but your POA will be below compared to before, a good percentage of really good shots like to set their guns up with what most would call a high sight picture but they don't have to compensate by shooting underneath everything, they do it to get a better view which has benefits such as eradicating head lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Hamster your spot on. Only problem is if your used to a relatively flat sight picture and then go to one of seeing lots of rib and shoot the gun as you used to, you will shoot over the target. I did when I got my latest gun with adjustable comb. Set as I thought it should be with stacked beads and shot over or took the top of everything, slight adjustment and spot on again.The picture I see at the clay and bead was how I always shoot and the gun was going high to that. If the op has been using a different gun and has his sight pictures set and this gun is showing more rib he will be shooting high as you say he is, not the gun as such. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashman1 Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 To much rubbish talked about beads should be looking at target anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 -2 it's a fallacy, guns don't suddenly shoot physically higher just because ones eye is above the rib. To mechanically shoot higher than before a gun needs more sophisticated means, POI barrel hangers are one example. If you don't believe me then just hold out your hand and use your master eye to aim at a small object around you making sure you are looking nearasdammit flat along your finger in the manner of a flat gun/rib situation. Then slowly raise your eye a little whilst doing your absolute best to keep hand and finger pointed as before, what will happen is that you will now see the target object more clearly and the finger will appear to be well below it, easily interpreted as the gun now shooting higher when in fact it is not, it is only your sight picture which has altered. The same applies to a gun clamped in a vice and pointing to an object, viewed with a flat rib picture it points AT it, raise the comb and nothing else and your view of the target will be vastly improved and because it is now sitting above your sight line it gives the impression of higher POI. Higher comb = higher perceived POI but your POA will be below compared to before, a good percentage of really good shots like to set their guns up with what most would call a high sight picture but they don't have to compensate by shooting underneath everything, they do it to get a better view which has benefits such as eradicating head lift. I read the OP as, "now that I've had my gun for a few months, I find that it's shooting high". In other words it's always done it and not that it's suddenly started. Should that be the case, then +1 with both Kent and Dashman1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 ITs not a bad thing as it allows you to keep the target in view so if you miss you can see it and get a second shot off quicker if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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