955i Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Just wondering. Can understand a few calibres, but is there that much difference between say .223 and .243? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 So many different applications... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted November 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 So many different applications... OK, but surely there is a '1 size fits all' somewhere in all of it. Not big on rifle shooting so don't really understand it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Target bullets are target bullets. Some target bullets "can" be used for hunting. Some target bullets are too frangible to be used for close range hunting and can make a bit of a mess if clipping bone If the range is extended then they could be a good choice bullet Some expanding ammo is designed to expand rapidly on varmints. Some expanding is designed to retain weight to get good exits. Some expanding is designed for moderate stalking ranges with impact velocities lower. Put these in a faster cartridge at a shorter range and you get different terminal performance. And so it goes on. There are a lot of cross over bullets for a given cartridge but there is room for many different bullets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted November 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Target bullets are target bullets. Some target bullets "can" be used for hunting. Some target bullets are too frangible to be used for close range hunting and can make a bit of a mess if clipping bone If the range is extended then they could be a good choice bullet Some expanding ammo is designed to expand rapidly on varmints. Some expanding is designed to retain weight to get good exits. Some expanding is designed for moderate stalking ranges with impact velocities lower. Put these in a faster cartridge at a shorter range and you get different terminal performance. And so it goes on. There are a lot of cross over bullets for a given cartridge but there is room for many different bullets Thanks Mr Tumble My head hurts now, starting to wish I hadn't asked LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 No it's simpler than it sounds. A mate has a .243 and uses 100gr interlocks for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 To some extent u are right, when i was a boy and starting keepering there was very little choice in calibres, most keepers would have 2x 22lr (1 with a mod and subsonics for lamping and 1 with High velocity for daytime/longer range work) and a 243 for foxing and possibly a 270/308 for larger deer species, and in thse days no mod's on cf rifles. Can still mind when the boss got his first 222, wot a pleasure it was to shoot, no kck at all, even the 243 packs a bit of a kick with no mod when ur just a young boy Now there is so many different calibres that there will be some degree in overlap between them. Probablly not a lot off difference between most of the 22cf rifles, but there is a bit of a difference betwwen a 223 and a 243, basically a 243 will fire a bullet 2x as heavy, 50ish grains to ur 100 grain, where if u move up to a 308/3006 ur up to around 200 grain And then u get on to the different bullet design like wot bk has highlighted above. For hunting all to do with penetration, proper expansion and stopping power It can be as complicated as u want it to be, but all u have to do is find a calibre/bullet thats is legal and works and the rest doesnae matter. A lot of these more modernly fashionable calibres/bullets are just a fashion gimmick really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted November 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Well even in the smaller rounds you get HMR, HWR, Hornady, Hornet (think they are all right). Surely there can't be a need for that many differences in one calibre, or am I totally not on the right track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Many would disagree with me, but i think ur right there is no need for that many calibres so similar in size, in my opinion. Keepers/stalkers managed for years before all these calibre were popular. And u then have ur custom wildcat rounds in between the more normal calibre's. Not to say some of the more fashionable 'modern' calibres re not more 'ballistically' sound than some of the older 1's, like i said earlier the 22cf rounds are a vast improvemnt for foxing compared to using a 243 but it still does the job Also i think u may be getting bullets and calibres mudled up? I think hornady is a bullet manufacter not a calibre (but i may be wrong) in very very basic terms the calibre is the barrel dia (smilar to guages in shotguns) while bullet type is design/shape of the bullet 'head' (and i realise there is no such thing) ur soft point, ballistic tip etc Dunno wot is driving all these calibres wether it is the rifle/ammo makers trying to sell u more rifles u dinae really need or folk trying to be different/better than each other? Whereas 30+ years ago all that mattered was the rifle/ammo combo done the business no one cared wot it was or wot it looked like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Variety is of course the spice of life....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 So many different applications... So many sales for you.................... TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 fingers in pies,your main competitor comes out with a claimed all the bells n whistles bullet ,u buy a box dismantle it ,copy it with a subtle variation so no copyright violation and bingo .people buy it to compare jobs a good un.people like choice so theyl wonder whose is best and u have ten bullets in the same calibre all claiming the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Well even in the smaller rounds you get HMR, HWR, Hornady, Hornet (think they are all right). Surely there can't be a need for that many differences in one calibre, or am I totally not on the right track Why are there so many threads used in engineering....bsf whitworth unf unef unc bsp pspt metric x3 plus loads more all because they have a different use..... TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 If you build it, they will come buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy King Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Because there are so many different RIFLES ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Thats a bit like asking why are there so many different types of vehicle! Or even just car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy22 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Thats a bit like asking why are there so many different types of vehicle! Or even just car! Or, more to the point, motorcycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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