shippers2 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) so out today got wet very wet but kept going and as me and my mate creep in the woods we see about 5 fallow doe's looking straight at us two of witch were albino, we didn't have time to scope them before they were running away but was thinking if they should be shot or not some might say bad luck if u do some might say just another deer. what do people think Edited January 4, 2015 by shippers2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Just another deer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Just another deer, if you want to shoot them do it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pboro shot Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 I suppose from a deer management perspective id be asking do you want albino fallow on your ground if not shoot if you do let them flourish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Don't shoot white deer . They are really unicorns ,if you shoot one you will be cursed for the rest of your short life . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Don't shoot white deer . They are really unicorns ,if you shoot one you will be cursed for the rest of your short life . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 suspect it was white rather than true albino, we usually leave them as they are much easier to see in the woods and often give the other deer away. Otherwise if you shoot them your testicles will drop off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 so out today got wet very wet but kept going and as me and my mate creep in the woods we see about 5 fallow doe's looking straight at us two of witch were albino, we didn't have time to scope them before they were running away but was thinking if they should be shot or not some might say bad luck if u do some might say just another deer. what do people think I was thinking my eyesight was getting worse.......however your extra large text is easy to read........................ Seems a lot of your deer run away.....you cant blame the frost under foot for spooking them on this stalk TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippers2 Posted January 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I was thinking my eyesight was getting worse.......however your extra large text is easy to read........................ Seems a lot of your deer run away.....you cant blame the frost under foot for spooking them on this stalk TEH hahhahaha your write I cant blame the frost lol this time I think ill have to take it on the chin and say it was my fault as I didn't manage to dance around the woods and avoid the all 20 billion sticks and leaves that were just waiting to give my position away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippers2 Posted January 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Don't shoot white deer . They are really unicorns ,if you shoot one you will be cursed for the rest of your short life . Harnser I think u might be right coz as it run away there was loads of glitter left behind and then a rainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 hahhahaha your write I cant blame the frost lol this time I think ill have to take it on the chin and say it was my fault as I didn't manage to dance around the woods and avoid the all 20 billion sticks and leaves that were just waiting to give my position away I had a look on my ticket, there was no mention of asking people's opinion on shooting white deer... Was you the chap being told to shoot a little higher in the video? Far too many people on that bit of ground and expect the deer to be settled.... TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippers2 Posted January 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I had a look on my ticket, there was no mention of asking people's opinion on shooting white deer... Was you the chap being told to shoot a little higher in the video? Far too many people on that bit of ground and expect the deer to be settled.... TEH I had a look on my ticket, there was no mention of asking people's opinion on shooting white deer... Was you the chap being told to shoot a little higher in the video? Far too many people on that bit of ground and expect the deer to be settled.... TEH I asked out of interest in what other people would do if they had the opportunity to take one (I no what I would do). and as for saying far to many people on that bit of ground u have no idea what THAT bit of ground is like how big it is or the numbers that we have on it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I asked out of interest in what other people would do if they had the opportunity to take one (I no what I would do). and as for saying far to many people on that bit of ground u have no idea what THAT bit of ground is like how big it is or the numbers that we have on it, The Essex Hunter, on 04 Jan 2015 - 08:28 AM, said: I had a look on my ticket, there was no mention of asking people's opinion on shooting white deer... Was you the chap being told to shoot a little higher in the video? Far too many people on that bit of ground and expect the deer to be settled.... TEH I you want to get in to the details of it....much the same as some comments on Stalking Directory then fine by me.... As above in red.....? Regarding the size of the ground....has no bearing on the pointing muzzles of rifles up peoples noses, climbing over stiles with a shouldered rifle, and being told where to place the shot.... That is what is on the clip.... TEH TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Never really follow these sort of threads. Under what pretence are you out there shooting deer, management, removal, "sport", (never quite understood the meaning of that word in a shooting context)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippers2 Posted January 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 The Essex Hunter, on 04 Jan 2015 - 08:28 AM, said: I you want to get in to the details of it....much the same as some comments on Stalking Directory then fine by me.... As above in red.....? Regarding the size of the ground....has no bearing on the pointing muzzles of rifles up peoples noses, climbing over stiles with a shouldered rifle, and being told where to place the shot.... That is what is on the clip.... TEH TEH yes I am and I cant tell u why they said that as I new what i needed to do, maybe they got excited as for climbing over the stile and muzzles up peoples noses the guns are never loaded before we are on our grounds. so out all of what u have seen tell me what part of it tells u how many people should or should not be on our ground seeing as u no so much about were I shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 yes I am and I cant tell u why they said that as I new what i needed to do, maybe they got excited as for climbing over the stile and muzzles up peoples noses the guns are never loaded before we are on our grounds. so out all of what u have seen tell me what part of it tells u how many people should or should not be on our ground seeing as u no so much about were I shot The bit when the deer ran off......... You also made this statement on a comment I made..........on the muzzle up a chaps nose " its a very good point but I can assure u the rifles are never loaded before we are on the grounds and yes u are write we were on a public footpath ATB shippers" TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippers2 Posted January 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 The bit when the deer ran off......... You also made this statement on a comment I made..........on the muzzle up a chaps nose " its a very good point but I can assure u the rifles are never loaded before we are on the grounds and yes u are write we were on a public footpath ATB shippers" TEH The bit when the deer ran off......... You also made this statement on a comment I made..........on the muzzle up a chaps nose " its a very good point but I can assure u the rifles are never loaded before we are on the grounds and yes u are write we were on a public footpath ATB shippers" TEH HAHAHAHA!!!!!! oh I see coz we bumped the deer and saw the deer running off that means there's to many people on the land (there was two of us by the way) your a joke. I must be right in thinking u have never bumped in to deer and they have run off wow man u must be good, and yes I did make then comments it was a good point u made but like I said the guns were all unloaded xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 suspect it was white rather than true albino, we usually leave them as they are much easier to see in the woods and often give the other deer away. Otherwise if you shoot them your testicles will drop off That's the reason a lot of people do shoot them as if you suffer from poaching they stand out like a sore thumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 That's the reason a lot of people do shoot them as if you suffer from poaching they stand out like a sore thumbYep! Just that reason, I remove the leucistic due to poaching problems, as well as any of the lighter breedings. But having said that, I did leave the odd one for a couple of seasons just to given a very basic idea of movements. Just one left in each group. It was noticed that all 3 ended up together in one of the groups.This year there are a number coming back though again but will leave till summer coat stats to drop and see if the coat stays light. We use to have a very nice buck on the land and did leave it as management liked to see it but, not seen it for two seasons. If poaching is a problem then affraid to say, remove them. If not a problem then just take either what you need for the freezer, your cull numbers or old and sick. I do like to see a mixed group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippers2 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) cheers guys for the imput. as far as we are aware we have not had any poaching on our land I could not be 100% as there is a road that runs near the back of a small part of the permission so not impossible for poachers to get on our land but we have never found any evidence of poaching. that was the first time we have come across the whites on our land so will see if they stick around we have large numbers of resident deer mainly fallow and some roe but we also have numbers of fallow and roe who transit in some areas as well. Edited January 6, 2015 by shippers2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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