fortune Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 What is the general consensus of the T3 Lite? Do they have any random failings or problems? A friend is interested in buying one and apart from the obvious things that one would check for do they have any weird things that he should check for? This particular one is said to have a 1 in 7 twist which seems to be a bit high to me for use with varmint bullets. Could this be a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 What is the general consensus of the T3 Lite? Do they have any random failings or problems? A friend is interested in buying one and apart from the obvious things that one would check for do they have any weird things that he should check for? This particular one is said to have a 1 in 7 twist which seems to be a bit high to me for use with varmint bullets. Could this be a problem? I have a t3 lite laminated stock, no problems at all,what cal is he looking at? My 223 is 12 twist, they also do 8 twist in 223. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 have a .223 in 1 in 8 twist can go as low as 40g heads does what it says and then some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) I have a t3 lite laminated stock, no problems at all,what cal is he looking at? My 223 is 12 twist, they also do 8 twist in 223. have a .223 in 1 in 8 twist can go as low as 40g heads does what it says and then some The gun is a 223. I've been told that it is a 1in 7 but I dont know if this is correct. Although you are using as low a grain as 40 how fast are you pushing them as I have heard of lightweight varmint bullets disintegrating on exiting the barrel with a high twist at high velocity Edited March 16, 2015 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 The gun is a 223. I've been told that it is a 1in 7 but I dont know if this is correct. Although you are using as low a grain as 40 how fast are you pushing them as I have heard of lightweight varmint bullets disintegrating on exiting the barrel with a high twist at high velocity If you don't want shoot any bullet over 55 grain just get 12 twist, if you want to shoot over 55 grain then get 8 twist, with 8 twist pot luck if it shoots 40 gr, Magman is lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 If you don't want shoot any bullet over 55 grain just get 12 twist, if you want to shoot over 55 grain then get 8 twist, with 8 twist pot luck if it shoots 40 gr, Magman is lucky. What is the normal bullet that you use in yours? I personally have a Win mod 70 in 223 with a 1 in 12 twist and I generally use 55 grn sierra game king and have connected out to 275 paces although this was an extraordinarily long shot for me. Normal is from 25 paces out to about 150 but it all depends on the ground and backstop ect. Generally I get them in closer if it is possible by calling or movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 What is the normal bullet that you use in yours? I personally have a Win mod 70 in 223 with a 1 in 12 twist and I generally use 55 grn sierra game king and have connected out to 275 paces although this was an extraordinarily long shot for me. Normal is from 25 paces out to about 150 but it all depends on the ground and backstop ect. Generally I get them in closer if it is possible by calling or movement. 52 and 53 grain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Thanks for that. Anyone with any experience of lightweight bullets such as 50 grn with this rate of twist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 What is the general consensus of the T3 Lite? Do they have any random failings or problems? A friend is interested in buying one and apart from the obvious things that one would check for do they have any weird things that he should check for? This particular one is said to have a 1 in 7 twist which seems to be a bit high to me for use with varmint bullets. Could this be a problem? if it is 1:7 then it isn't a factory barrel, they only made 8 and 12 so my guess is it is listed wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Thanks for that. It probably is a mistaken listing. I did think that 1 in 7 sounded a bit odd. A mate of mine has a tikka in 222 and I know that he bought a bigger mag for it and that it was quite pricey fo what it was. Anyone know of any issues or random odd ball things with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Some people don't like the plastic shroud at the rear of the bolt. You can get after market steel replacements. I've never bothered I think it's fine as is. Accurate, reliable, trouble free rifles in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 The gun is a 223. I've been told that it is a 1in 7 but I dont know if this is correct. Although you are using as low a grain as 40 how fast are you pushing them as I have heard of lightweight varmint bullets disintegrating on exiting the barrel with a high twist at high velocity As others have mentioned I'm not aware of a 1-7 .223, they are 8 or 12 to the best of my knowledge. As a general observation with the Lite, balance with a sound mod can be an issue, it took me 2 years of scope, mounts, mod changes and a second barrel chop before I gave up and put some lead weight just inside the recoil pad. Brilliant now! My .223 Lite is 1-8 and very happy with it, its always shot well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foosa Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Mine and every other t3 I've seen has the twist rate stamped on the barrel, just in front of the calibre stamp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Excellent rifle. Mine is 223 1:8. Shoots anything accurately although 55gn Vmax is its staple diet. Out of the box, it can shoot < 1 MOA, which I believe is not exceptional for this rifle. The plastic shroud was no problem for me and it really does everything you'd expect well. Light, accurate and reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenshooter Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 as I have heard of lightweight varmint bullets disintegrating on exiting the barrel with a high twist at high velocity i'm told by people with more experience than me that this is rarely, if ever, seen in practice. And when I was thinking and asking about this myself a few years ago, have never met anyone who has seen this happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossy 666 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I Have a tikka t3 lite in .22-250 and shoot 55gn Vmax and Out of the box its Light, accurate and reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy220 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 I haven't the foggiest what you lot are talking about? More research needed I think. What's a twist rate? Does it effect lr and hmr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) I haven't the foggiest what you lot are talking about? More research needed I think. What's a twist rate? Does it effect lr and hmr? It refers to the rifling - the spiral grooves inside the barrel which cause the bullet to rotate about its axis thus imparting gyroscopic stability. A twist rate of (for example) 1 in 12 means that for every 12 inches through the barrel the bullet travels it will make one complete rotation. Twist rates are optimised for specific bullet weights. If you use a bullet weight which is significantly lighter or heavier than the one your barrel is optimised for, accuracy can suffer. Not really an issue in rimfires due to their relatively low velocity and very small variation in common bullet weights. It can be a big issue in centrefire rounds which are capable of using a wide range of bullet weights. So don't worry about it if you only shoot HMR and LR. Edited March 19, 2015 by Blunderbuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy220 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Now I understand. Thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) I haven't the foggiest what you lot are talking about? More research needed I think. What's a twist rate? Does it effect lr and hmr? It is important in ALL rifles, even your 12ft lb air rifle. HMR and WMR and LR (even that 17 mach2) all perform best with the correct twist/weight/length/speed. The reality is you don't get a lot of choice with off the shelf rimfire/air rifle barrels. One of the reasons most sub sonic .22lr are more accurate than the High Velocity variants! Edited March 20, 2015 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 What is the normal bullet that you use in yours? I personally have a Win mod 70 in 223 with a 1 in 12 twist and I generally use 55 grn sierra game king and have connected out to 275 paces although this was an extraordinarily long shot for me. Normal is from 25 paces out to about 150 but it all depends on the ground and backstop ect. Generally I get them in closer if it is possible by calling or movement. Fortune - forgive me barging in but can you tell me where you got your Winchester 70 from and if you rate it? I wanted to have a look at one but can't find ANY stockists. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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