Grandalf Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Just watched todays F1 race. Ferrari seem to be back in the running with a vengeance. Vettel for the championship? I wonder. He drove well, saved his tyres and won. Kimmi in fourth despite a puncture. Mercedes got it wrong today on the strategy but the prancing horse was very fast. Should be an exciting season. I enjoyed todays race immensely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Thank you for the technical analysis Fister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 there are 3 or 4 teams who are going to be on the podium this year..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_jay Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Thought today's race was very very good, aside from the boys at the front there was also some decent tussles from the rest of the field. Well worth getting up early for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Was a good race, hopefully carry on like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 The Ferrari worked very well today, not taking anything away from Vettel but Kimi finishing 4th with all his problems does point to a very rapid car. I'll reserve judgement till at least mid way through the season but instinct tells you true Greats don't get beaten in equal equipment, ever, but he did last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I watched until the safety car came out and then went up to farm, but must admit I was surprised when they all made it around that first bend without serious grief. Met mate up at shoot and told him where they were up to and he said, 'well that's that then, Vettel will win, Hamilton second' and he was right. It is this boringly consistent predictability which is the reason I'm indifferent to watching it nowadays. Barring accidents and mechanical failure it is often just a high speed parade in my opinion. Saying that, to be there in amongst the pit crews and all the hoi polloy must be fabulous, and to actually be involved in any part of one of the big name teams and travel the world as a part of it must be the thing of dreams. One of the pundits beforehand said it would all come down to tyre choice, and he was right. I'll still watch it of course, if I happen to be in, but I agree with fister about the hats; I itch to get hold of Hamiltons ( or anyones) and bend the brim over to create a proper curved brim. Some fashions are just plain wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I'd rather watch paint dry or american football . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmydean Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Sad really, 25 seconds more for a third tyre change puts ferrari on equal terms with mercedes. Shame - I'm rooting for Williams but would rather what the bikes these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmydean Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Yes but the Ferrari didn't need three sets of tyres to maintain that pace for the whole distance, the Merc did. True but the strategy to come in after lap 5 and the safety car, proved to be wrong - Vettel stayed out, so I think my comments fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxlock Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Yes I enjoyed it too, partially because I just admire the winners in sport, not little cranky Lewis brought up by uncle Ron who wear stuuupid hats that wouldn't fair well in a wind tunnel test. Note also Kimmi wears a sensible hat too! fister, the spoilt little **** hat go's well with the stupid over sized chain round his neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 If I could get paid one quarter of what he gets paid to wear a stupid hat, then I'd wear one all day and in bed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmydean Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 If I could get paid one quarter of what he gets paid to wear a stupid hat, then I'd wear one all day and in bed too. And he drives a beautiful and incredibly fast car without danger of speeding tickets. I'd wear an aspidistra on my head for the money and the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 The Ferrari worked very well today, not taking anything away from Vettel but Kimi finishing 4th with all his problems does point to a very rapid car. I'll reserve judgement till at least mid way through the season but instinct tells you true Greats don't get beaten in equal equipment, ever, but he did last year. indeed, I'm glad Ferrari got a win, anything to mix things up a bit but I feel it was more down to other cars/teams getting strategy wrong or pure bad luck (safety car) than Vettel driving amazingly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted March 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I don't think Kimmi, or his car, were given the credit they deserved. Having had a puncture at the start he was running last but still got fourth. Wonder what he could have achieved if he didn't have to stop and change that wheel. They could well have had a one, two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I don't think Kimmi, or his car, were given the credit they deserved. Having had a puncture at the start he was running last but still got fourth. Wonder what he could have achieved if he didn't have to stop and change that wheel. They could well have had a one, two. He'll have been on the podium for sure but then again going by his past temperament (remember him overtaking Fisichella for the win on the last lap ?) and Vettel's less than perfect end game composure (remember that time when Button stole his win ?) it is also possible they'd have wiped each other off the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver90owner Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Track temperature was a big factor in this race. It will perhaps not help the ferrraris so much elsewhere. Hamilton was right when he said over the radio that their final tyre choice was naff, otherwise he may have won. Most certainly the ferraris had top speeds comparable with mercedes, but they needed to reduce downforce in order to achieve that; shown up by the far better times (for mercedes) in the twisty section. Biggest losers were red bull, who have been crying about the renault engine's lack of power and wanting mercedes to be dragged back.. Certainly shut them up for a race or two. Best car and strategy, on the day, won. It would have been different if it had been a partly wet race - no doubt about that, I think! - or if there had been no safety car on track. RAB Edited March 30, 2015 by oliver90owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 "You have put the wrong tires on" "I don't know what I'm doing" "Don't talk to me when I'm going round corners" You can tell Hamilton didn't win.....Mr Whinge is back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 "You have put the wrong tires on" "I don't know what I'm doing" "Don't talk to me when I'm going round corners" It did sound rather petulant didn't it. Perhaps this will cheer him up; he even has a 'proper' hat on. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/32124091 I don't begrudge him the money, but as big boats don't float mine I've no idea what I'd do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver90owner Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) ''But Ferrari chose that best strategy, Mercedes didnt, stop crying.'' fister, I read back on this thread and could not detect anyone crying about anything or anyone. I did note your first post which was, frankly, a rediculous thing to say - that you admire the winners in sport - as you clearly hate last year's winners. Not at all consistent, that! I agree, ferrari chose the right strategy on Sunday. But I can see that one swallow does not make a summer. There will always be at least two marques on the podium and, as we saw last year, the first past the finish flag was not always the same one. There will be tracks that suit some cars more than others; Monaco clearly favours the pole sitter, per eg. I just think you need to be less partisan than your posts on this thread, or you may be reminded of the thread later. Ferrari chose to go for maximum speed, so less downforce, at this race. Their better tyre wear was sufficient to secure the win. Well done, as I said earlier. Williams (still with more power than the ferraris?), disappointed me as they seem not to have improved the handling, while the ferrari chassis seems much improved. The comments by Hamilton, above, were all perfectly correct, and expected, taken in their proper context. Personally, I don't really care who wins the championship - just as long as it is not Rosberg over Hamilton! But if he does, you will surely admire him, no doubt! I thought the second ferrari, getting to fourth, was probably one of the best performances on the day. Raikkonen did a great job to regain so many places after the puncture - but he did have the benefit of the safety car to close the initial time gap! His only real competition was in dispatching the two Williams, but he still had to catch them first. RAB Edited March 31, 2015 by oliver90owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Personally, I don't really care who wins the championship - just as long as it is not Rosberg over Hamilton! RAB Any particular reason Rab? I'm not a Hamilton fan and he does Whinge a lot if things are not going to plan but I also think the media are now savvy to this and highlight his comments. For some reason over the years he has become a wannabe gangsta rappa which is another reason I don't like him, However I just can't see anyone but him winning the championship again this year. McLaren........ Surely it can't only be me that can see the car is rubbish no matter what engine they put in it, they had the same engine as Williams last year and couldn't keep up with any of the top to middle teams, Honda no doubt will eventually create a stonking engine as good if not better than the Merc, BUT if they can't get the car right it's no good. A couple of years ago in the second half of the season they had the fastest car on the grid, following year rather than build on that they changed the whole design, a move they have never recovered from. They need to go back to basics and get a car that can handle first, I can't see Alonso winning a race in this stint at McLaren and will leave at the end of this year or next..... Phew.....rant over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver90owner Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Fister, you amaze me! (well not really). When have you seen a pit board on a corner? Never, ever, I suspect!! Your last post sums up your views. Little to do with the race at all, just your personal aversions. I wonder why Alonso moved from ferrari - big mistake in hindsight, it seems at present, but time may tell a different story. I wonder why Vettel jumped into the ferrari spare seat - nothing at all to do with the poor, unreliable renault engine, of course? Shaun, As for Mclaren - they can only improve, surely? Yes, they were c.140 points down on Williams last year and may do no better this year. But the current problem clearly lies with the power unit; there is no way, at present, to assess whether the chassis is good, no better, or anything else. More available power (much more!) would mean they could use more downforce to actually test the chassis. On past performance, Honda will get there. Only then will we be able to judge the performance potential as a complete race car. Both Button and Alonso are good performers, given suitable machinery. A simple preference of Hamilton over Rosberg. Nothing racial, or anything like that, but I think rosberg was likely underhand in his attempt at last year's title race, and Hamilton deserved to come out on top eventually (he won more races, for starters). Ferrari, mercedes, williams, etc? Not really bothered as long as the best combination gets there by merit. As an aside, I am not fanatical about any particular football team, or much else for that matter. More a realist on performance/capability than having a biased attitude based on personalities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Alonso would have been privvy to what was coming at Ferarri before he announced he was jumping ship, Senna did the same when he left McLaren for Williams, Williams had the better car by far but it was down to their exploitation of the rules (Newey) But after Senna had signed the rules changed so their advantage was taken away. Senna to his credit grafted away and it's said that through his knowledge of how the car mechanically and aerodynamically worked it slowly got better and better but unfortunately he died before it came to fruition, Hill benefited in the end by winning the championship eventually. McLaren really need to get on top of the handling before they truly have a winning car, as I said above they had the engine last year but not the car. Hamilton is not spotless when it comes to dirty tricks, When he was at McLaren he drove into button in Canada, I liken him to Kimi in some ways, if the car and everything else is working its fine but both loose interest if its not all 100% Hamilton whinges and Kimi trundles, Hamilton WILL win the championship this year but next year I expect it to be a bit more open, All of this of course is just my opinion Oh and sadly I think this will be Buttons last season :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 I've never quite grasped why Rosberg isn't more popular, he has beaten all his teammates (I know Schuey doesn't really count as he was past his best) except Lewis and even then he out qualified him. He has a lot of speed if not outright race pace, I for one would be happy if he outscored Lewis this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 I think he lost a lot of respect last year, I also think he isn't liked much in Germany BECAUSE he beat Schuey Having said that the Germans never really got behind Vettel to the point attendances dropped so much they can't afford to put a GP on this year, All the new stuff is being built Far East/china/Arabia because that's where the money is, even though attendances are not great, they are subsidised by the money people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.