AVB Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Who was it who said "taxi for Cameron". If this article is to be believed (I know it's only the Daily Mail) then it's just as likely to be Taxi for Farage. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3025874/Nigel-Farage-buries-loser-poll-Ukip-leader-covers-survey-spelling-humiliating-defeat-Tories-Thanet-seat.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Who was it who said "taxi for Cameron". If this article is to be believed (I know it's only the Daily Mail) then it's just as likely to be Taxi for Farage. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3025874/Nigel-Farage-buries-loser-poll-Ukip-leader-covers-survey-spelling-humiliating-defeat-Tories-Thanet-seat.html ha ha ha he tried to cover it up, how the hell could he a skewed vote (do some research chum) he had nothing to do with it , typical daily wail trying its best to discredit in their blind panic to support the plum gobbed cretinous **** that wants another 5 years, blimey next you will try to convince me bankers aren't rouge dealers and horse thieves KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 ha ha ha he tried to cover it up, how the hell could he a skewed vote (do some research chum) he had nothing to do with it , typical daily wail trying its best to discredit in their blind panic to support the plum gobbed cretinous **** that wants another 5 years, blimey next you will try to convince me bankers aren't rouge dealers and horse thieves KW Rouge dealers? I have never dealt in rouge myself. Lipstick and foundation maybe. Oh I get it you mean rogue dealers. Was it a deliberate play on words? I cleary stated "if this is to be believed". I didn't say I did or didn't believe it. As for the "do some research chum". Why the "chum" comment? You really try to personalise things don't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrM Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 blimey next you will try to convince me bankers aren't rouge dealers Ah the rouge bankers blame game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo90 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Ah the rouge bankers blame game... No not those caring bankers who looked after everyones money and didn't dangerously speculate with it and create the economic problem we as a nation and as a world are now paying for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrM Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) No not those caring bankers who looked after everyones money and didn't dangerously speculate with it and create the economic problem we as a nation and as a world are now paying for So those who recklessly borrowed the money when they either couldn't repay or had no intention of repaying it, had nothing to do with the situation then? Yes they made it easy for us to borrow, but we in our greed took full advantage of it! Edited April 5, 2015 by MrM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Why so.... the party ideals are similar..... total English Supremacy. There's a massive difference between British sovereignty and English supremacy Mike, as you well know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 any one not voting ukip come to me in leicester i'll change your mind without doubt.a quick tour round the mosque / streets and you will realise many of our cities are lost causes now .imigration is out of controll .every other party wants to save the world .ukip wants to save the uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Croc Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 any one not voting ukip come to me in leicester i'll change your mind without doubt.a quick tour round the mosque / streets and you will realise many of our cities are lost causes now .imigration is out of controll .every other party wants to save the world .ukip wants to save the uk I worked in Brum for a month,( that was enough) 25 years ago, that worried me, driving across a 2 or 3 mile section of the city where I didn't see a white face, couldn't read the shop names, (written in Arabic or whichever language it was) and lots of "women" ( I think) you could only see there eyes Dread to think what it's like now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 So those who recklessly borrowed the money when they either couldn't repay or had no intention of repaying it, had nothing to do with the situation then? Yes they made it easy for us to borrow, but we in our greed took full advantage of it! I had made this point many times MrM but there are those who don't want to hear or see. The banks weren't innocent but they were only part of it, the govt of the time plus your point was the rest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wogger wabit Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 i have voted ukip in the past but there are too many tories in it now for me there all apparently jumping ship (why ) are they hoping they will still get there own way ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo90 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 i have voted ukip in the past but there are too many tories in it now for me there all apparently jumping ship (why ) are they hoping they will still get there own way ????? I believe that's because the tories weren't right wing enough for those people, and also because camoron failed to do an eu referendum. Those ex tories were tories because that was the nearest party to what they represent until ukip grew. None of this discussion has highlighted anything that either labour, conservative or lib damps would do that would help me and those I know in any positive way. Out of interest, I mentioned I am doing a temporary job in a warehouse, that about 70% of the staff are poles working via an agency and earning just over minimum wage.......I found out last night that the company got into somekind of trouble recently, for advertising roles in poland first before advertising them here.......seems big business likes to milk the system and this affects us the working class, this has caused a rise in immigration in this area, and also kept british people out of work. Then all the other social problems from crime to health care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo90 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 So those who recklessly borrowed the money when they either couldn't repay or had no intention of repaying it, had nothing to do with the situation then? Yes they made it easy for us to borrow, but we in our greed took full advantage of it! I didn't, I am and always have been loath to borrow. This the banks weren't entirely to blame, is true. Hope this anaology doesn't get lost on you anti ukippers. Occasionally a news article comes up of a teacher usually early twenties having it off with a pupil usually late teens...... Now the teacher (banks) is the one in a position of trust, and also a guilty party, the pupil (the public) also knew it was wrong and in some way contributed to what happened and took part willingly. Now it seems you are apportioning more blame to the pupil than the teacher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 To those who say the con men have us on the right track, perhaps after 5 years IN govt this man may know the real truth about them a tad better? http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/06/nick-clegg-george-osborne-is-a-very-dangerous-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sable Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 ukip all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 To those who say the con men have us on the right track, perhaps after 5 years IN govt this man may know the real truth about them a tad better? http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/06/nick-clegg-george-osborne-is-a-very-dangerous-man Perhaps that man also has a hugely vested interest and his party is facing wipe out at the polls. In every election speech I have heard him make in this campaign he has talked in glowing terms how the incumbent government has got the country back on the right footing economically, so what is he really saying? Is it maybe something like 'because we have been involved we have done really well, but if we're not involved then watch out cos big bad George or big bad Ed is going to get you'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Beat me to it, he was quite happy to work with him for the last five years and claim a lot of credit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 "Enjoy the war whilst you can because the peace will be terrible" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Beat me to it, he was quite happy to work with him for the last five years and claim a lot of credit.... Imagine what mayhem the con men would have achieved without the coalition partners holding them back, frightening indeed, true it has done the libs no good whatsoever to get into bed with the cons they are the ones who are taking the flak so dont see where the taking the credit bit is?, and as said it has probably finished them, but like it or not this coalition and the rise of dare I say it UKIP has seen the face of British politics change dramatically, cant for life of me ever see again a simple one party majority govt, and again like it or not that has to be for the better, blimey I'm starting to root for the SNP if it would sink the hug a hoodie **** KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo90 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I actually like nick clegg, as an individual that is from what I've seen of him And I fear he is telling the truth in that article. Its damaged the liberals and I feel its also damaged the cons this coalition. The tories have said already they couldn't implement all they wanted due to the coalition so I think we may have to thank nick clegg for at least being a slowing factor. The tories like the eu as it gives cheap labour to their mates in business, labour like the eu as some kind of socialist eu superstate ideology, liberals similarly....... I just see the cost, the lowering of wages and the importation of unskilled workers. I want out of the eu and is the main reason I'm voting ukip. On the leaders debate all the main parties gave free movement in the eu as a good thing for brits, on a straw poll I would guess most of those brits saw it as escaping a sinking ship rather than fantastic opportunity to work in a warehouse in europe! Both camoron and clegg have tried to make out of the coalition as if it was statesmen like decision for the good of the uk, the reality is it was the only way they could get into government as no one wanted any of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Croc Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Tory PPC defects to UKIP, wonder is that because he's been knocking on doors and hearing the what the public are saying in his patch?? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32194270 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrM Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) .This the banks weren't entirely to blame, is true. Occasionally a news article comes up of a teacher usually early twenties having it off with a pupil usually late teens...... Now the teacher (banks) is the one in a position of trust, and also a guilty party, the pupil (the public) also knew it was wrong and in some way contributed to what happened and took part willingly. Now it seems you are apportioning more blame to the pupil than the teacher? I am not sure you can really level that as a direct comparative analogy - rather different scenario altogether! I was referring to the US sub-prime market where the crisis is supposed to have originated, where the banks lent money without due checks to un-credit worthy adults - so my view is that as well as the banks having a duty of care to whom they lent, sure, the borrowers were all technically "responsible" people and as such surely have to shoulder an equal amount of the blame - no one forced them to borrow after all. Blaming the bankers for the crisis is a great thing to bring to a soap box, but is not entirely true. Edited April 6, 2015 by MrM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo90 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I am not sure you can really level that as a direct comparative analogy - rather different scenario altogether! I was referring to the US sub-prime market where the crisis is supposed to have originated, where the banks lent money without due checks to un-credit worthy adults - so my view is that as well as the banks having a duty of care to whom they lent, sure, the borrowers were all technically "responsible" people and as such surely have to shoulder an equal amount of the blame - no one forced them to borrow after all. Blaming the bankers for the crisis is a great thing to bring to a soap box, but is not entirely true. Comparison I was trying to make one is a professional and the other isn't, the professional should act professionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I didn't, I am and always have been loath to borrow. This the banks weren't entirely to blame, is true. Hope this anaology doesn't get lost on you anti ukippers. Occasionally a news article comes up of a teacher usually early twenties having it off with a pupil usually late teens...... Now the teacher (banks) is the one in a position of trust, and also a guilty party, the pupil (the public) also knew it was wrong and in some way contributed to what happened and took part willingly. Now it seems you are apportioning more blame to the pupil than the teacher? Only in this case the pupil ( the public) were adults and knew ( or should have known) what their finances were and how much they could have afforded. They just went on blindly assuming that their houses would increase in price and the equity would pay off the debts. One couple who worked for my brother had £82k of unsecured debts above and beyond their mortgage, all spent on cars and holidays..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) It was in part basic human greed which contributed equally to the banking crisis you cant blame it all on the labour government, as much as one would like too. Of course Clegg will have the knifes out for Cameron and Osbourne... he like Farage ( if he doesn't win South Thannet ) is facing political obscurity and redundancy. There will more attempts by Labour, LIB DEM and UKIP to discredit the Conservatives and undermine the brilliant job they have done in the last 4 years getting a country which was on its knees in all industries back on track. The job is not complete however and why any sensible thinking person would want to risk serious reversal for the sake change is beyond me. I think you have to ask yourself what in the long term is best for me and my family ? Climb the ladder to success or slide down the snake to failure and start all over again. Whats the first thing you say to Farage and Clegg on the 8th of May. ....................................... "Big Mac and Fries please with a large coke" Edited April 6, 2015 by Fisherman Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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