most succesful competition gun of all time

[bobby t]

just woundered your thoguhts on the most sucessful gun of all time.

possibly miroku 3800 or the perrazzi range?

[Mungler]

Depends, the expensive gun manufacturers offer the big boys of shooting free guns, fitting and all the toys they want and hey presto a line and a range of competition winning guns is born.

[P03]

Gotta be a Beretta.

 

 

Helmet on.

[tosspot]

Probably Beretta 682 in its' various guises over the years in terms of major comps won

[dunganick]

might sound stupid, but i thought it was the rem 1100?

[magman]

might sound stupid, but i thought it was the rem 1100?

 

think your right there dunganick :blink:

 

think how popular skeet used to be most was won with rem 1100

[Dunkield]

Gotta be a Beretta.

 

In the UK, I would agree :blink:

[Catamong]

Gotta be a Beretta.

 

In the UK, I would agree :blink:

 

So would I, a lot of top competition shooters are using Krieghof's & Kemen's, but they've not been on the UK market that long.

 

Cat.

[pin]

As tosspot points out it depends how you judge success - guns sold and used in competition or number of competitions won.

[bobby t]

i had toguht of the remmy 1100 nick lots of the US sooters use them, i would have thoguht that perrazzi with all the gold medals was the most successful in olympic terms bu at club level maybe the 682 or browning stable?

[Mungler]

I remember reading an article in an old Pull mag - apparenlty the most successful Olympic gun was some ugly lump of wood the Russians used for about 40 years with rather good results.

[Catamong]

That would be a Vostock Skeet gun with Tula chokes, I think they had 26" barrels, and are now a collectors item.

 

Cat.

[08shooter]

i think the 1100 won nearly every title at one point or another.i read that somewhere

[Gordon R]

Remington 1100. Won most. Vostok has to be a close second. If you think about the two countries involved - no surprise.

[mry716]

Sorry Folks - Didn't read the intial post correctly.

 

As said Holland and Holland NOT competition guns sio have deleted my comments.

 

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[Dunkield]

No doubt that the H&H's are superb guns but I doubt they get used in competitions much.

682 Beretta's have been used by Digweed, Faulds et al at one stage or another in their careers.

 

 

Cat,

 

If you are reading this, just out of interest how many cartridges do you estimate your 682 has had through it?

 

My 687 may be about 18 years old now but it doubt it gets a fraction of the use some of the members clay guns seem to get.

[the last engineer]

That would be a Vostock Skeet gun with Tula chokes, I think they had 26" barrels, and are now a collectors item.

 

Cat.

 

that would have been when the russians were banned for using tear drop shaped shot, one of the old guys i shot with competed against the reds many years ago, them bad boys brought in their own loaders for shooting, from what im told the patterns produced gave them advantage over the rest ofthe field, they had shells marked for each station,,,,,,,,,,, still didnt land on the moon though did they,,,,,,,,,, come to that some say the yanks didnt either ??

 

the remi 1100 has taken more skeet wins than any other gun tis true

 

 

Martin

[Catamong]

No doubt that the H&H's are superb guns but I doubt they get used in competitions much.

682 Beretta's have been used by Digweed, Faulds et al at one stage or another in their careers.

 

 

Cat,

 

If you are reading this, just out of interest how many cartridges do you estimate your 682 has had through it?

 

My 687 may be about 18 years old now but it doubt it gets a fraction of the use some of the members clay guns seem to get.

 

Stuart,

 

I bought my 682 in August 1984 from Chris Potter in Tunbridge Wells.

 

I was using a 687 up until then, but Barry Simpson tipped me off that there was a replacement for the 680 range being brought out, and that the first batch of only 3 guns were soon to be imported and were already allocated to Chris Potter, who then was probably the biggest Beretta dealer in the UK.

 

I phoned him up and made an appointment to view the next day, as two had already been pre-sold, so I went along, had a look at it, fell in love with it straight away and bought it there and then. The retail price was £897, I think he sold it to me for a fair bit less than that.

 

It is a 28" model, (30's weren't imported until a year later), and it weighs a hunky 8.5lbs, the metal is very dense and this batch used American Walnut, which they soon replaced with the (cheaper?) and lighter Japanese Walnut.

 

Over the years I've had a lot of alteration work done to it, including stock comb reduction, recoil damper fitted, forcing cones extended and barrels ported. I now use only extended ported Rhino Chokes, as they throw superb patterns and effectively extend the barrels to 29", which seems to suit me fine.

 

I've shot it continuously since 1984, apart from a couple of 18 month spells when I tried a Mirook 3800, 32", teague choked, (lovely gun, OK for long targets, but kept missing the silly fast close ones..!! ), and then more recently a 30" 682 Gold E, again a good gun, it actually weighed a full pound less than the 28" model, but for some reason, apart from winning the South East Regional Champs at Southdown with a 95, I never had a result with it.

 

In terms of numbers of cartridges shot through it, I've not kept a record, but back in the 80's & 90's I was shooting 5000 - 6000 registered Sporting a year, but I'm now down to about 3000 a year on registered clays, when you add in what I've also shot through it at anything from Pheasants, Partridge, Pigeons, Rabbits, Rats together wity practice clays, I've probably put about 175,000 shells through it, which is not a vast amount when compared to some.

 

It's only let me down twice, ALWAYS in a major competition, I've had to replace a couple of small springs that broke and prevented the second barrel from firing, also the hinge pins have been replaced, apart from that, it's been fine.

 

Cat

[GAMEBOY]

just woundered your thoguhts on the most sucessful gun of all time.

possibly miroku 3800 or the perrazzi range?

in uk must be beretta 682

[bobby t]

to quote a fellow poster the holnad and holland has been used in competiotn it has a bronze skeet medal to its name courtesy of countess pinky la grelle

[dunganick]

i own a game version of the vostock mu8 which is the model that i believe won all the medals. Its on my ticket as a baikal

 

lovely gun.

 

stock is about 14" though

[the last engineer]

No doubt that the H&H's are superb guns but I doubt they get used in competitions much.

682 Beretta's have been used by Digweed, Faulds et al at one stage or another in their careers.

 

 

Cat,

 

If you are reading this, just out of interest how many cartridges do you estimate your 682 has had through it?

 

My 687 may be about 18 years old now but it doubt it gets a fraction of the use some of the members clay guns seem to get.

 

Stuart,

 

I bought my 682 in August 1984 from Chris Potter in Tunbridge Wells.

 

I was using a 687 up until then, but Barry Simpson tipped me off that there was a replacement for the 680 range being brought out, and that the first batch of only 3 guns were soon to be imported and were already allocated to Chris Potter, who then was probably the biggest Beretta dealer in the UK.

 

I phoned him up and made an appointment to view the next day, as two had already been pre-sold, so I went along, had a look at it, fell in love with it straight away and bought it there and then. The retail price was £897, I think he sold it to me for a fair bit less than that.

 

It is a 28" model, (30's weren't imported until a year later), and it weighs a hunky 8.5lbs, the metal is very dense and this batch used American Walnut, which they soon replaced with the (cheaper?) and lighter Japanese Walnut.

 

Over the years I've had a lot of alteration work done to it, including stock comb reduction, recoil damper fitted, forcing cones extended and barrels ported. I now use only extended ported Rhino Chokes, as they throw superb patterns and effectively extend the barrels to 29", which seems to suit me fine.

 

I've shot it continuously since 1984, apart from a couple of 18 month spells when I tried a Mirook 3800, 32", teague choked, (lovely gun, OK for long targets, but kept missing the silly fast close ones..!! ), and then more recently a 30" 682 Gold E, again a good gun, it actually weighed a full pound less than the 28" model, but for some reason, apart from winning the South East Regional Champs at Southdown with a 95, I never had a result with it.

 

In terms of numbers of cartridges shot through it, I've not kept a record, but back in the 80's & 90's I was shooting 5000 - 6000 registered Sporting a year, but I'm now down to about 3000 a year on registered clays, when you add in what I've also shot through it at anything from Pheasants, Partridge, Pigeons, Rabbits, Rats together wity practice clays, I've probably put about 175,000 shells through it, which is not a vast amount when compared to some.

 

It's only let me down twice, ALWAYS in a major competition, I've had to replace a couple of small springs that broke and prevented the second barrel from firing, also the hinge pins have been replaced, apart from that, it's been fine.

 

Cat

 

you must love that gun Cat, mine is the Browning ultra xs, one of two i have, again a few things done to enhance the feeling of becoming one with the gun, the only problems i have had were worn ejector sears, of which i replaced and timed and the imo obligatory replacement pins per year, the first couple of years i had it i think i put around 60 k through it and the same the following year, must have been a shell makers dream come true me and the govner shooting the lights out every night, must have in the region of 250k

through the first and a hat full through the others, cant get bored can you, on a side note looking to break in the T.M R7 this weekend on the OTHER range.

 

 

Martin