hoggysreels Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Unsure whether to get a fairly new Hatsan or Armsan. Then the option of a secondhand Beretta Optima AL391 Urika came about. The Hatsan & Armsan would be newer gun. Think the Beretta would be 2005 ... l know nothing about semi autos! .. appreciate a bit of advice .. atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a303 Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 391 possibly one of the best autos ever made. Forget the hatsan and armsan etc and buy the beretta. Age is nothing to 391 providing it's been looked after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I've got a 391 and it's my 'go to' gun. I rate it very highly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 It's a no brainer . The beretta . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Beretta, given the choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 You would be nuts to buy the other two over the Beretta 391 , has to be one of the best autos made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I had a AL391URIKA good gun my one was a little catridge fussy had to be 70 mm and 28g or above my one had the optima plus chokes and pattern very nice. People say I am mad but I got rid of it for a new baikal under over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 mine's a 2001 al391 urika wetlands camo 1/2 choke for pigeon good solid gun get that beretta hoggyreels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted July 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Well l got the Beretta. I'd pm'd a member off PW a few days ago. I rate his opinion and equally his ability with a shotgun. He cast a few doubts over selecting the Hatsan, though in fairness never bad mouthed them .. anyhow, you guy opinions are much appreciated indeed .. hope lve done the right thing lol .. There is what looks like a 4mm aluminium rod, its about 10cm in length. Its fitted in a recess in the gun case .. lve not a clue as to what its for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I use that to push out the pin holding the trigger mechanism in place. Not sure if that's what it's for but it fits perfectly!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 The rod is to restrict the magazine to one shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a303 Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 I'm gonna be using mine on the pigeons tomorrow. Lovely soft reliable shooters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted July 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Took it for a familarisation shoot "fun" ... only put 20 cartridges through it ... what a piece of kit !! ... l thought it likely to be good, but it really impressed me "and if you knew me, lm not exactly a person that goes over the top about anything" ... very impressed and pleased. I've been thinking on and off about getting a semi auto for a while. I'm no one that shoot many thousands of cartridges per year. Though l've a feeling l will be using more this year than previous years. Got home and thought "better clean it" ..well l've cleaned it as best as l'm presently able to. Got to get my head round a few things first. And one of those things is to strip, clean and assemble correctly. Will try and get a manual for it off the internet. There is a push catch on the left side receiver and a small push in type catch button to the rear of the spring loaded flapper "for want of the correct description" .. anyhow l don't see this as a chore, learning about the semi auto, more an enjoyable experience .. well till l get a jam lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Well done... don't sell it. You'll regret it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Took it for a familarisation shoot "fun" ... only put 20 cartridges through it ... what a piece of kit !! ... l thought it likely to be good, but it really impressed me "and if you knew me, lm not exactly a person that goes over the top about anything" ... very impressed and pleased. I've been thinking on and off about getting a semi auto for a while. I'm no one that shoot many thousands of cartridges per year. Though l've a feeling l will be using more this year than previous years. Got home and thought "better clean it" ..well l've cleaned it as best as l'm presently able to. Got to get my head round a few things first. And one of those things is to strip, clean and assemble correctly. Will try and get a manual for it off the internet. There is a push catch on the left side receiver and a small push in type catch button to the rear of the spring loaded flapper "for want of the correct description" .. anyhow l don't see this as a chore, learning about the semi auto, more an enjoyable experience .. well till l get a jam lol The push catch is the magazine cut off , press it in and when you manually cycle the bolt it ejects the cartridge that is in the chamber without loading another out of the magazine , very handy if you need to switch a cartridge quickly . The small button in front of and underneath the trigger when pressed will lock the bolt back when you open it. The button on the side which you press to close the bolt can also be used to empty the magazine , slightly press the cartridge in the magazine upwards and press the button at the same time and it will come out , repeat for second cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 This article http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=101242explains how to maintain a 391. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afastr Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 This article http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=101242explains how to maintain a 391. Second this, I purchased the guide he sells for $20 and it's absolutely brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m greeny Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Took it for a familarisation shoot "fun" ... only put 20 cartridges through it ... what a piece of kit !! ... l thought it likely to be good, but it really impressed me "and if you knew me, lm not exactly a person that goes over the top about anything" ... very impressed and pleased. I've been thinking on and off about getting a semi auto for a while. I'm no one that shoot many thousands of cartridges per year. Though l've a feeling l will be using more this year than previous years. Got home and thought "better clean it" ..well l've cleaned it as best as l'm presently able to. Got to get my head round a few things first. And one of those things is to strip, clean and assemble correctly. Will try and get a manual for it off the internet. There is a push catch on the left side receiver and a small push in type catch button to the rear of the spring loaded flapper "for want of the correct description" .. anyhow l don't see this as a chore, learning about the semi auto, more an enjoyable experience .. well till l get a jam lol There is some very good informative video clips on youtube explaining all you will ever need to know about cleaning and maintaining your gun trust me i hhave watched them many times when i have been unsure about something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 110% the Beretta. It isn't a modern classic by accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted July 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Yep; managed to watch an informative video on youtube. Helped me strip/clean/lube and reassemble. Also managed toget a manual as a pfd. Decided on selecting a half choke ( 3 x cut outs on the choke tube ) l'd picked up a few boxes of steel when l bought the gun. Reading the manual, it suggested a half choke with steel cartridges gives good patterning. Will see! Its a 26" barrel version .. l'm not tall and it seems a comfy fit and fairly easy to get onto the target. In fairness lve only used a few cartridges , though l intend on having a session out, hopefully tomorrow .. made up l chose the right SA. It was more luck than judgement on my part .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a303 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 I rattled nigh on 220 carts through mine today and not a single jam. Spectacular autos they are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNS Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 I've got one, 30 inch barrels, and can't shoot with it at all - drives me insane ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted July 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) This article http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=101242explains how to maintain a 391.Cheers Mate .. Can a UK issued Beretta Semi Auto be dated by serial number ? ... only reason l've mentioned 2005 is because inside the gun case was a piece of literature and on it was 2005. Im not sure as to the year of the gun .. atb Edited July 10, 2015 by hoggysreels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 I've got one, 30 inch barrels, and can't shoot with it at all - drives me insane ! Dear oh dear , you best send it to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m greeny Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Dear oh dear , you best send it to me You dont need it fenboy so he best send it to me and i promise to miss plenty with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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