viking Posted December 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 A simpler way of saying what I was trying to explain :good: http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator cheers tam, i never understood what offset was on car wheels, ill mess about with them tomorrow and see if i can work it out, there all scrap wheels really so if it is the offset then its no problem. thanks. lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 You are best going out there :whistling: if it was me I wouldn't sleep all night wondering :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted December 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 You are best going out there :whistling: if it was me I wouldn't sleep all night wondering :lol: dont say that mate please, your not far wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 There you go bud, she came like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) There you go bud, she came like it. Just looked at all your early pics, she looked wider on the front, got some odd wheels i would wager. Edited December 31, 2015 by la bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 put it on axel stands take the wheels off and measure to flat of hub from side of chassis ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redleg in kale Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 are we talking about the same thing here paul? it sound like you could be talking about the wheel sticking out, im talking about the axle not sitting straight HI LEE , JUST PICKED UP ON THIS POST AND TAKES ME BACK 35YRS WHEN I WAS WORKING ON SAME VEICHLES SET YOUR LEAF SPRINGS UP HAS LA BALA GIVE A LINK TO PAGE 20, I SET THEM UP MID DEFLECTION I CAN NOT REMEMBER MEASUREMENT TIGHTEN SHACKLES TO TORQUE SETTINGS ,SUPPORT CHASSIS ON AXLE STANDS REMOVE ROAD WHEELS RUN A STRING LINE FROM BACK DRUM REAR SIDE TO FRONT DRUM FRONT SIDE AND SEE IF RUNNING OUT SMALL OFFSETS CAN BE MADE BY RELEASEING SPRING AXLE U BOLTS AND ADJUSTING , HOPE YOUR NOT THINKING IAM TRYING TO TEACH MY GRAND MOTHER TO SUCK EGGS , IF YOU WERE CLOSER I WOULD HAPPILY COME ROUND AND GIVE A HAND YOUR DOING A CRACKING JOB ,HOPE TO SEE THE FINISHED PROJECT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 put it on axel stands take the wheels off and measure to flat of hub from side of chassis ? Looks like he is going to be in the garage until 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redleg in kale Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 well iv bought some, been wanting some for a while now, halfords pro advanced, life time guarantee £50 reduced from £100. just noticed the 16mm is missing, rang them and they will give me one if i pop in tomorrow f hi lee ,forgot to mention in earlier post about self bought Christmas present ratchet spanners , if I remember series 3 were imperial spanner sizes so if impulse buy iam willing to offer £25 and whitworth and AF spanners , all the best for new year, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 hi lee ,forgot to mention in earlier post about self bought Christmas present ratchet spanners , if I remember series 3 were imperial spanner sizes so if impulse buy iam willing to offer £25 and whitworth and AF spanners , all the best for new year, Well spotted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 The metric equivalent are close enough for a Landy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky gipsy Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Hi I think I understand your worry of axle not looking straight now. You mean it does not appear parralel with the front crossmember when viewed from above. If your meaurement from axle centre to spring shackle bolt are the same (17") then your axle / spring set up is bolted up right ie spring peg located in axle hole. I wouuld undo all the shackle nuts and wind back the bolts into the threaded shackle a midges to relieve any stresses and restraints and do exactly as "redleg in kale" suggets as he is bang on with the fitting proceedure. Regarding the wheels appearing to stick out different widths, did you try to measure as my last post? If all centre line of chassis to centreline of tyres are not the same on each corner, then you have odd wheels fitted so no more worries there then. The three main rim types you will find are swb rims at 5" wide, lwb rims at 5.5" wide and if you are VERY lucky early forward controll rims at 6.5" wide. All these have different inset and offset dimensions. I fitted some early range rover steel rims to mine with some hub spacers. Axle straps....leave em off till you load up the weight on front end more. and then see. They mat still be restrictive though due to the slightly increased ride height given by the new parrabolics. Heres one I made earlier! Keep going and good luck. ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 A tidy looker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 There you go bud, she came like it. all very strange then as the 4 wheels that are on it now are not the same wheels that came with it, i sold the tyres that came with it ages ago as i was buying new, then released i needed some for it to sit on so found some on ebay 4 wheels and tryes £20, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 thanks for all the answers chaps but being a rank amateur there quite hard to get my head round, with me im best going in the garage and having a good look at it with all your ideas in mind trying to work out how to do it on the spot, im going in now and im not coming out till its done, wish me luck and ill see you all whenever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Viking - if you get stuck for Whit / BS or AF sockets / spanners - holler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 thanks for all the answers chaps but being a rank amateur there quite hard to get my head round, with me im best going in the garage and having a good look at it with all your ideas in mind trying to work out how to do it on the spot, im going in now and im not coming out till its done, wish me luck and ill see you all whenever Take your time bud, dont rush, have plenty of tea breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Viking - if you get stuck for Whit / BS or AF sockets / spanners - holler. thanks gordon but iv got all my dads old tools in the garage about 5 tool boxes full of old spanners and sockets he was a mechanic for 40 years as well as a HGV/PSV and car driving instructor. never been short of a spanner, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 so for the last 2 hours iv taken the front springs off and turned them round front to back to see if that made a difference, no it didnt it was the same, as luck would have it my dad called round and he said that with the weight of the engine it it would force it down and would twist it back at the shackle side and then sit level, so im going to wait till the engine goes back in and see, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) Im not sure if i understand all whats going on......is the problem the springs ? not keeping the chassis level ?................if it is ....then the way i see it ...is that it is supposed to be like that as the springs are HANDED.....the chassis will not sit level until it is fully loaded and someone weighting the drivers side...... i thought the problem was that the axels were not sitting the same width as back and front ! if you want to check it put a ratchet strap around the top of the chassis then under the spring ...and tighten...? Edited January 1, 2016 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 not sure whats going myself any more, the problem is that the square bits on the top of the axle that i rpesume should sit flat on the top like the rear axle doesnt, its like its leaning forward a bit, not great pictures but best i can do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 If you are100% sure the spigot on top of your spring is located correctly in the axle plate dont worry unduly. As has been suggested leave shackle bolts and u/bolts on the loose side, then hopefully as you get weight on, it will correct it. I have myself put a spring on and not got the spigot in the locating hole, there is room in the casting for the spigot not to be in and still be able to close the gap up when tightening the u/bolts. Stick with it, you are doing good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 I'm pretty sure there in the holes. I will slacken them off again and check with a torch. I'm sick of un doing the nuts and bolt on them now. But I guess it's all part and parcel of what in doing. And I love it really. A big thanks to you all for your help and suggestions. PW at its best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky gipsy Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 RIGHT!! Now I understand what you mean by axle not being straight. STOP WORRYING!! Assuming that you have bolted the axle to the springs and there are no gaps between the front and back mating faces, all is OK. As you load up the front end weight, the springs will compress, flattening them out and lengthening them. This will then force the shackles backwards and upwards, thus lifting the nose of the diff upwards and therefore making the "square bits on the top of the axle" (bump stop faces) in a plane more parrellel to the bottom of the chasis rail. I would still recomend leaving the shackle bolts loose untill then and following the sequence mentioned by Redleg in Kale & I said earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) Cheers mate. I will now stop letting it bother me. Onwards and upwards. Going to make a start on cleaning engine up at weekend. Ditchman expect loads of questions.👍👍 Edited January 1, 2016 by viking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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