photon Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Need some advice Chaps, I have an old AYA boxlock that after a clean and put back together i found that the forend would not snap into place, "not had this happen before" so did a quick google search and it appeares that the gun had to be re- cocked ? before the forend would be fit back, To me the info is a bit confusing " not difficult for me to get confused, one thread said it shouldn't happen and another that it had to be reset manualy, best done by a gunsmith. Any advice will be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 It all points to the fact the gun was FIRED While the forend was not attached. It has to be COCKED to assemble it, it works like this on many guns.. I am presumeing it is an Ejector..?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Whoops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Need some advice Chaps, did a quick google search and it appeares that the gun had to be re- cocked ? before the forend would be fit back, I don't think that is right. I'm pretty sure that a forend can be taken off or put back on regardless of whether it is fired or cocked. Even if you have fired the hammers off and the cocking lever are up then they can only go into a position whereby the ejector springs are still cocked then it would only be a matter of letting the ejectors off tension that the action and the ejectors are back in form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebert Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Give it a whack, this happens on my No4 if I don't use enough force to refit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 As you have not said that its an ejector I'm guessing that you pulled the triggers while cleaning the gun?-if so then the cocking dog/s are stopping the forend from fitting-you can remove the stock and cock the hammers manually or, if you have a way of holding the action securely-you can cock the hammers from the knuckle by pushing in the dogs with a piece of wood? You could also try fitting the forend after opening the barrels and letting them drop to roughly their normal open position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Give it a whack, this happens on my No4 if I don't use enough force to refit it. And That is Why my Friend, Many guns I Have Repaired,, Have Splits in the fore-End.. Devalues the Gun a Treat.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photon Posted September 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 As you have not said that its an ejector I'm guessing that you pulled the triggers while cleaning the gun?-if so then the cocking dog/s are stopping the forend from fitting-you can remove the stock and cock the hammers manually or, if you have a way of holding the action securely-you can cock the hammers from the knuckle by pushing in the dogs with a piece of wood? You could also try fitting the forend after opening the barrels and letting them drop to roughly their normal open position. Apologies,it is an ejector, and thank you for the information, i think a trip to a gunsmith is the way to go. Thanks again for all of your replies chaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 re-cock it with the forend removed press the cocking dogs down onto a wooden bench or similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 It all points to the fact the gun was FIRED While the forend was not attached. It has to be COCKED to assemble it, it works like this on many guns.. I am presumeing it is an Ejector..?. I thought a gun would not fire without foreend attached.....learn something new every day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Caruse it will fire with formed removed it all ready cocked.I had it happen to me pig to recock but can be done pressing the dogs in to hard wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photon Posted September 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 FIXED IT! Followed the advice and pressed the dogs on a lump of hardwood, Job done. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Yep not to hard to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 You must have pulled both triggers and then removed the forend before opening the gun-easily done and easily sorted-hope you had snap caps in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photon Posted September 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 You must have pulled both triggers and then removed the forend before opening the gun-easily done and easily sorted-hope you had snap caps in Cleaned it loads of times never happened before, but will make sure it's cocked before i take it apart again, I have snap caps in all my guns, even though i run the risk of being burnt at the stake from some PW members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Know what you mean r.e, snap caps-I use them on any gun powered by leaf springs as a rule of thumb and don't worry about other peoples opinion-would use them in all my guns if I had enough of them Edited September 18, 2015 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebert Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 And That is Why my Friend, Many guns I Have Repaired,, Have Splits in the fore-End.. Devalues the Gun a Treat.. I doubt very much that whacking the fore end with the palm of my hand will cause any damage. A gun smith friend of mine whacks the fore end of every gun he closes, habit over the years I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) I doubt very much that whacking the fore end with the palm of my hand will cause any damage. A gun smith friend of mine whacks the fore end of every gun he closes, habit over the years I suppose. It depends on how hard you are whacking the fore end. it is a bad habit to have as the fit of the parts should not need a whacking to assemble them into position. I remember a bloke that had a habit of rolling the gun over sideways and sort of slapping the gun shut with a sort of whiplash action with one hand. One day the gun discharged into the ground in front of him leaving a smoking crater in the soil. The habit that he refused to stop was unnecessary and potentially dangerous and did damage to the gun. Edited September 18, 2015 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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