pestcontrol1 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Ned s , now there is a guy that cracks me up , I was only reading the other day about his loads . How about these. I use 1 oz of steel 4's in a 3 inch Cheddite hull at 1864 fps and 1964 fps in my 935 with a Terror choke. At 3500 ft where I hunt this load will penetrate to kill to 65 yds. Like others I also will shoot them immediately with 7/8 oz of 4's at 1764 fps or 1 oz of 3's at 1650 fps. The 4's will kill to 58 yds and the 3's to 62 yds. Ned 1500 fps is the best speed that i have found for steel loads. although 28 gram in a 3" doing 1800 fps would"t mind testing it out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 1500 fps is the best speed that i have found for steel loads. although 28 gram in a 3" doing 1800 fps would"t mind testing it out lol 1800 is what the new remington hypersonics are suppose to be doing , but all I seem to read about is smashed up guns. I think anything from 1400-1500 is more than ample in steel , a good few factory loads are nowhere near that and still do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 1800 is what the new remington hypersonics are suppose to be doing , but all I seem to read about is smashed up guns. I think anything from 1400-1500 is more than ample in steel , a good few factory loads are nowhere near that and still do the job. 37 gram of #B or #BB is devastating on the geese lol but i found it a little harsh on the pigeons thou it did drop them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I have some Eley vip steel that kill well , but when I chrono them ... less than 1200 fps. Shot size and pattern make more of a difference than hyper velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 37 gram of #B or #BB is devastating on the geese lol but i found it a little harsh on the pigeons thou it did drop them lol100 buffered BBB through the ten are rather jaw dropping on geese too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 100 buffered BBB through the ten are rather jaw dropping on geese too. I loaded some last season which was a buffered load lol i won"t be using buffer again in a hurry, It just kept blowing back in my face filling my eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I sell special anti buffer safety glasses. Want some? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I sell special anti buffer safety glasses. Want some? I don"t use buffer now " but at the time i was wishing i had some lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Thought I had a sale there. Farma , you're fired ,without buffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Thought I had a sale there. Farma , you're fired ,without buffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Just my thoughts I think steel needs to be doing 1400 fps plus for shooting further than 35 yards. I have loaded steel to a claimed velocity of 1600 fps and patterns have always been good, would be interesting to see what you get at 1800 fps. Have not used buffered steel loads yet because patterns don't need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Just my thoughts I think steel needs to be doing 1400 fps plus for shooting further than 35 yards. I have loaded steel to a claimed velocity of 1600 fps and patterns have always been good, would be interesting to see what you get at 1800 fps. Have not used buffered steel loads yet because patterns don't need it. Depends how far you want to shoot with big pellets. Buffered BBB give me 60 to 70 % patterns at 60 yards. You can't do that with normal loads. If you want to shoot fast steel , that's entirely up to you , but to me it's pointless and gives no benifits other than the buzz of shooting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Just my thoughts I think steel needs to be doing 1400 fps plus for shooting further than 35 yards. I have loaded steel to a claimed velocity of 1600 fps and patterns have always been good, would be interesting to see what you get at 1800 fps. Have not used buffered steel loads yet because patterns don't need it. It definitely doesn't need to be that fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Nes S sounds like a modern day Nash Buckingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Nes S sounds like a modern day Nash Buckingham.Look him up on the American Wildfowling sites , he is good fun. He has been doing fast steel since I started loading steel and he was only 70 then!Ned Swaygard sometimes Swygard , depends how he feels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Sizzzzzzzlin' hot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 He is certainly a character Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanm Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Totally agree about the fast loads around 1500 is fine, and with bigger pellets speed is less important .I loaded some 1750 ft/sec loads and they kicked like a donkey , wasted a lot of powder ,had low shot count and was like a flame thrower in the dark lol Edited October 23, 2015 by allanm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Totally agree about the fast loads around 1500 is fine, and with bigger pellets speed is less important .I loaded some 1750 ft/sec loads and they kicked like a donkey , wasted a lot of powder ,had low shot count and was like a flame thrower in the dark lol Interesting to note that your 1750 fps loads opened up the pattern, my 1600 fps load has a good pattern. Lots of variables to consider but maybe a steel pattern is blown at 1750, could be my claimed 1600 is not anywhere near 1600 out of my gun. I just load to the data and assume I'm getting the claimed velocity, the loads work for me, I'm to far from the proof house to put them in for testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Proof test barrel performs different than sporting gums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanm Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Didn't mean they opened up pattern , I ment low shot count as to get the speed up you have to lower shot weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Sorry I mis understood what you where saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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