Rutlandwilly Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Just looking ahead and seeing what other people have got on with. I would like to get half the covers into perenials, minimum of 2 years. Mainly to cut long term costs and also to spread risk of crop failures... I like artichokes and some of the kale mixes. What are others using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 We used Bright seeds I think, some years ago. If I recall it was a mixture; either Labrador or Setter, consisting of Quinoa, Sunflowers, Dwarf Sorghum, and the stunning small lavender flower which mutates into millions of seeds called Cephelia (?) I never can remember it's name. Anyhow, it lasted two good seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Phecilla (like but still wrong) Artichokes are dead by middle of season and like a field of canes give no shelter, but look the part early before season. just my opinion I'm also interested in these types of cover going to try reed canary grass as parts of my plots for nesting and against avian predators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutlandwilly Posted February 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Phecilla (like but still wrong) Artichokes are dead by middle of season and like a field of canes give no shelter, but look the part early before season. just my opinion I'm also interested in these types of cover going to try reed canary grass as parts of my plots for nesting and against avian predators As regards to artichokes you are right, but I like to ridge them so when they grackle you get warmth in the ridge bottums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Chicory. Not as good as kale, but nothing is. It only gives cover and no food but once it is in it grows for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Cannabis sativa gives good ground cover and produces high pheasants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) Phaecelia? One of us will get there in the end!! You can't beat kale, but does sometimes look a bit leggy to me in the second season, wonder if you could broadcast something over it to thicken it up again? Miscanthus looks like it could have potential, once it's in it will grow forever if properly managed Edited February 21, 2016 by kennett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Canary grass is excellent used sparingly. Makes a great wind break and good shelter on the edges of game covers which helps create a good flushing point. Too much of it though and the dogs will be pegging the birds as it's so thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Cannabis sativa gives good ground cover and produces high pheasants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 What about Indica? Cannabis sativa gives good ground cover and produces high pheasants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordripon Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 canary grass its great for about 15years but takes a year to establish well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretboy111 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 We use royal MKV from brights. It's awesome. Kale, canary grass, sweet clover, red clover and cocksfoot. Looks like it's going to be a very good mix. Only drilled it last year but has established like a dream. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordripon Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 We use royal MKV from brights. It's awesome. Kale, canary grass, sweet clover, red clover and cocksfoot. Looks like it's going to be a very good mix. Only drilled it last year but has established like a dream. A Hi ferret ! you say royal mkv is awesome ! what was it like in the first season ? I am asking because I am putting another cover into canary grass this year but don't want to wait two seasons for it to work well, I was thinking of sowing mustard into it at the same time but this royal mkv sounds like it could be a great alternative was the cover shootable in the first season ?? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretboy111 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Yeah its shootable because of the kale in it. That's effectively the only cover for the first year. Here's a pic of the cover a month ago after drilling last may. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Found the Royal mk 5 on the website, now am I right in thinking this will now be left as if it is a sole canary grass cover plot, or do you expect to have to over drill it with other seed to keep it going/holding birds. How long do you expect it to last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) We use royal MKV from brights. It's awesome. Kale, canary grass, sweet clover, red clover and cocksfoot. Looks like it's going to be a very good mix. Only drilled it last year but has established like a dream. A On your recommendation and the pics you've posted I am in the process of ordering the MK5 for use around a couple of our woods as wind breaks. Looks the dogs. As an aside, is it beetle proof? Edited March 12, 2016 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretboy111 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 This coming season it will be 2nd year kale with an understorey of the grasses and sweet clover which will go to seed. Then the next year will be grasses and sweet clover,eventually it will just become reed canary grass so will need to spray patches off so it's not too thick but other than that and topping occasionally it should last for years. Next lot I put in I'm going to include some chicory in the mix also as when that bolts it's a huge boost for wildlife and game. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 So i'm sold on this. If you did it again would you mix chicory in a first year drilling mix or leave till later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretboy111 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Yeah first year, it's only any good in the second year onwards. It's very easy to establish, most of my previous plots are 4 years old now and were drilled by broadcasting it like mustard. Gets abit too thick doing it that way though but I've only used it in 6m rows so doesn't matter as much. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 As regards to artichokes you are right, but I like to ridge them so when they grackle you get warmth in the ridge bottums I always thought the the main upside to the ridges was watching beaters falling **** over tit. Cannabis sativa gives good ground cover and produces high pheasants. Place I used to work did a test crop of Hemp (no high-inducing the chemicals but looks the part) one year. It got ravaged by all the local toe-rags who took to stealing it on mass. At least the thought of them trying to smoke it still makes me smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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