Tedly47 Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Evening guys, Doing a few days overtime so I thought I'd treat myself with the extra pennies I'm earning...! Thinking of a yildiz side by side multi choke in either .410 or 28... What are your thoughts (current owners would be good please) Cheers Tedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) I have a 28 bore O/U which has shot around 1000 rounds of mainly 16 grams. I had a 20 bore that had only fired around 500 rounds but I sold it to the young lady that I was Instructing at that time. She loves the gun and still shoots it. I had the rather plain stock on the 28 shortened to 13" for my Grandson to use and bought a standard stock from the Importers to allow me to use the gun too. Great fun to use, but still a bit stiff to open. I may stick 250 24 grams through it to try and loosen it up. I do not know of anyone with a Yildiz having any problems with it. My personal choice for the kids to use is a 28 over the .410. Edited June 9, 2016 by Westley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blasterjudd Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) .28 will kill most game whereas you will find the .410 will not cover anywhere near the same range and leave a bit to luck. But both are challenging calibres I've got . .410 .28 .20 and .12 Out of all Guns I own I get most enjoyment from the 28g which I own 2 and shoot pigeons and game with no trouble at all. But I would not use .410 for game and struggle on medium ranges with pigeons. .410s are more of a fun gun imo. Hope this assists. Edited June 9, 2016 by blasterjudd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) I have a 28 bore O/U which has shot around 1000 rounds of mainly 16 grams. I had a 20 bore that had only fired around 500 rounds but I sold it to the young lady that I was Instructing at that time. She loves the gun and still shoots it. I had the rather plain stock on the 28 shortened to 13" for my Grandson to use and bought a standard stock from the Importers to allow me to use the gun too. Great fun to use, but still a bit stiff to open. I may stick 250 24 grams through it to try and loosen it up. I do not know of anyone with a Yildiz having any problems with it. My personal choice for the kids to use is a 28 over the .410. Seconded. I've been using a 28ga Yildiz O/U for a couple of years now and it's been fine and very enjoyable to shoot. I did have a broken firing pin quite early on, but I may have been over-keen with the snap caps / practice mounting the gun, so I blame me for that rather than the gun. I won't be getting rid of it any time soon. I do remember it being slightly tight to start with, but I patterned a lot of cartridges between 19-25 grams and that soon loosened it up. I use mine with 21g/#6 through ¼ and ¾ and it's perfectly usable out to 40 yards. I try not to push it much further than that, but it will do the business out to 50yd if you're feeling confident (and are absolutely bang on the mark). Although it's very light (the receiver is part-Aluminium) and easily carry-able for a whole day, I tend to use it as a hide gun rather than a walkabout gun. I take something with a bit more reach when I'm out for a wander. I plan to use it to teach my boy to shoot, as and when he's old / mature enough to start handling shotguns. That's a positive review of the Yildiz 28 gauge, but I'll add that I also want to get a Yildiz .410 SxS at some point, to give you an indication of my confidence in the make. I agree with Westley's comment about the 28ga being a better choice for younger people - it's also a better choice for adults having their first foray into small-bore shooting, as I was when I bought mine. If I get a .410, I'd be tempted to go for the fixed choke model - if they still make it - but that's just a certain romanticism regarding side-by-sides on my part. Either way, you should be well-satisfied. One more thing occurs to me. The chokes on the Yildiz guns (the .410 may be different, but I've seen 12's, 20's and 28's) are cut to "English" measurements and have the same constrictions regardless of gauge (i.e. "full choke" is 0.035" constriction for all gauges). This is as opposed to the "US" (e.g. Briley, et al) measurements where the constrictions for each choke in a given gauge are cut proportionate to the size of the bore (i.e. "full choke" on a .410 is about 0.018" constriction; on a 12 gauge it's 0.035"). I happen to think that the latter approach is the one that better matches up with the "½ = 60% @ 40yd" (etc.) scale. To wit, if you usually shoot ¾ and Full in a 12 gauge, try ¼ and ½ in a Yildiz - provided your cartridge isn't "silly" fast, they'll tend to throw much tighter patterns than you'd expect with a given choke. Please forgive me if I give a personal prejudice on the subject an airing to finish: I was given a box of 28g/#5 Bornaghi "mini magnum" shells with my gun as a freebie. I suspected that the dealer was trying to get rid of them when he gave them to me and funnily enough, they've never come out of my bag, though they've been in there for years now. In the field, I've never felt I needed them. Neither have I felt from a theoretical perspective that there was any point in putting 28 grams down a 28 gauge - one might as well just use a bigger tube. Whatever you're going to buy, please don't try and stuff a 12 gauge load down it - small bores are at their best and most enjoyable when you work within their limitations rather than try to work around them. Whether .410 or 28ga, I hope you enjoy the fruits of your labours and bag many birds. Good luck! Adam. Edited June 9, 2016 by neutron619 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly47 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Cheers guys for making the effort to guide me, I did do a search on the site before I posted and noticed that lots of members said good things about them... I already own two .410's ones a old single hammer gun with a skeleton stock which my wife bought and had restored for me! And a nordica 3 shot bolt that I use often so I'm not a newbie to .410's and I like the challenge of using one. Don't know why but I just like the idea of a side by side .410! Cheers again, I appreciate the time and effort put into the above answers. Tedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I don't know anything about the make but 28 over a 410 every time. I've got stuff in every cal except 16 and When I take out one of the 28s, I don't feel under gunned at all. It never ceases to amaze me how the 28 will chop stuff down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 The multi chokes that came with my 410 ou (Khan K226 also badged as Revo) are definitely not properly scaled down and go from 400(cyl), 395 (impcyl), 390 (half), 385 (imp mod) to 380 (full), I have been slowly replacing these with Brileys and getting much better and consistent patterns. Similarly, Yildiz appear to be mobilchoke as well. The tighter chokes were definitely blowing the patterns so I would encourage you to go with the lighter choking option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) I already own two .410's ones a old single hammer gun with a skeleton stock which my wife bought and had restored for me! And a nordica 3 shot bolt that I use often so I'm not a newbie to .410's and I like the challenge of using one. Don't know why but I just like the idea of a side by side .410! Sorry if I offended - wasn't trying to imply that you were a newcomer to small gauges / patronize - only to say that I was when I bought mine and I'm glad I picked the 28 over the .410 for that reason. Two years later, and I'm just getting to the point where I think I could also buy a new .410 (got rid of the last one as it didn't fit) and start to take it out more regularly. Don't know about you, but I ½oz of #7 through a fixed ¼ / Full side-by-side is where I'm at right now. Set up like that, you'd not be giving up very much compared to the bigger tubes, provided you were quick on the barrel selector and it would be ever so light to point and carry... Lol - you've made me envious - I wish someone would offer me some overtime! Edited June 10, 2016 by neutron619 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartcjf Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 I have a 410 side by side Yildiz and absolutely love it. Have used it on driven pheasants to pigeons and crows in the hide. I use fiocchi 3in 19grm 6's and they do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly47 Posted June 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Sorry if I offended - wasn't trying to imply that you were a newcomer to small gauges / patronize - only to say that I was when I bought mine and I'm glad I picked the 28 over the .410 for that reason. Two years later, and I'm just getting to the point where I think I could also buy a new .410 (got rid of the last one as it didn't fit) and start to take it out more regularly. Don't know about you, but I ½oz of #7 through a fixed ¼ / Full side-by-side is where I'm at right now. Set up like that, you'd not be giving up very much compared to the bigger tubes, provided you were quick on the barrel selector and it would be ever so light to point and carry... Lol - you've made me envious - I wish someone would offer me some overtime! Don't be silly neutron619 you spent time and effort on a very informative reply which was much appreciated. Overtime isn't all its cracked up to be especially when it's a 6pm until 6am but it pays for all my shooting and new toys.. I like the idea of a 28 bore but don't think yildiz do them in the side by side, I've got my local RFD on the case! Cheers again for all the reply's.... Tedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Brian Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 I had a .410 Yildiz sbs for a while and still regret selling it- great little gun. When pennies allow I will be looking to get another. I have the 20 gauge version at the moment which is also good. I don't remember seeing a 28 gauge sbs on the Yildiz website. It would be a good choice if they did have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 whilst I don't have a 410 in sxs I have an o/u and it is great fun to use.i use mine on skeet and the odd bit of pest shooting.you might be surprised at just how effective they are even at a decent distance.put the lead in the right place and it will do the business.never tried a 28 so cant comment on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) Don't be silly neutron619 you spent time and effort on a very informative reply which was much appreciated. Overtime isn't all its cracked up to be especially when it's a 6pm until 6am but it pays for all my shooting and new toys.. I like the idea of a 28 bore but don't think yildiz do them in the side by side, I've got my local RFD on the case! Cheers again for all the reply's.... Tedly With all this money you're earning from working overtime - you could also buy me a 28 bore. Remember i am a mere pensioner, old and doddery on my feet 😭 and a new 28 bore would be light for me to carry! Edited June 10, 2016 by browning123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly47 Posted June 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 With all this money you're earning from working overtime - you could also buy me a 28 bore. Remember i am a mere pensioner, old and doddery on my feet 😭 and a new 28 bore would be light for me to carry! Keep dreaming old man......😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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