TIDES EDGE Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Do you clip or not clip your poults before putting them to wood ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) Clip, gives us half a chance of keeping them in the pen! Edited July 1, 2016 by kennett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Clip, gives us half a chance of keeping them in the pen! I think OP means releasing them from the pen into the woods. Ours are all unclipped as we believe it gives them a better chance to escape predators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Ours go into the pens unclipped, but they soon grow new primaries and then let themselves out when they are ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 I take it that is a typo above kennet?? Folk will always argue either way and both have plus's and minus's. If u get a fox in pen first few nights ur birds are doomed anyway, after 4 or so nights ur birds should be beginning get up and roost. If u clip u might have that worry/risk for 2 weeks ish. All depends how confident u are with ur pens Think worth clipping if u have a pen on steepish ground, small pens where birds can easily spook/flop over the wire or if problems with BoP's scaring them over the wire. Might be worth clipping. Scully will depend when u get ur ex layers but u can't really clip them the same, if birds are already throu the moult and u clip will not get feathers back till the next summer, the same if u get older more mature poults Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIDES EDGE Posted July 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Sorry I meant putting to wood in a release pen I have always had them clipped but our supplier is suggesting un clipped its a big pen but I still think I want them clipped just wondered what every one else thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 We clip ours to try and keep them in the pens longer. I also help out at a big shoot with 3 keepers and we clip all of theirs as well, 2 teams and we clip about 1000 birds an hour per team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Very few keepers clip in my area and local gamefarmer hadly ever gets asked to clip. 1 shoot i used to help on used to only get some clipped for certain pens, as so steep, birds would easily flap from top and glide over the wire at botom despite the pens being big. It also depends how hard (how much u take off) u clip them too Rimfire, when u say keep bird sin pen longer, Do u have problems with lot's of birds going over wire in first week? After the first week some birds will be flying almost normally anyway and by 2nd week most will have the new primaries gown in, so after 2 weeks probably won't make any difference. Sometimes mature birds at 6 1/2 weks have primaries to big to clip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIDES EDGE Posted July 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 We clip ours to try and keep them in the pens longer. I also help out at a big shoot with 3 keepers and we clip all of theirs as well, 2 teams and we clip about 1000 birds an hour per team. 1000 Birds per hour could be why they want me to have them unclipped got 3000 coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Scully will depend when u get ur ex layers but u can't really clip them the same, if birds are already throu the moult and u clip will not get feathers back till the next summer, the same if u get older more mature poults We're not talking about ex-layers; the OP asked about poults. We clip neither our poults nor ex-layers, and the latter for the reasons you've given after advice from the NGO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Sorry i thought u only put ex layers down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Sorry i thought u only put ex layers down. Sorry for the misunderstanding; our syndicate puts down poults and our rough shoot puts down ex-layers. Neither are clipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIDES EDGE Posted July 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 They arrived today clipped. Thanks for all your views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Always thought that clipping our ex layers was wrong as better they could get up out of the way should trouble brew. The Old English Black necks seemed the best stayers for us and you had a good bird for the oven as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 I wouldn't be clipping ex-layers only poults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 After seeing what a fox can do to clipped birds in the pen we HAVNT clipped them since. But with a good steel mesh pen and electric wire it's less of a worry now to what it was. You may hold them in the pen for a couple of weeks extra?? But I am one of the Unclipped brigade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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