BNP Policies

[scaffman73]

Lets not vote BNP and just let all the poles and turks in to totaly **** this country . Why not pay more tax to keep them here so they can bump the crime rate throw the roof , at more expence to the tax payer . No one got my vote this year , there was not BNP in my area .

[Yorkshire Pudding]

Lets not vote BNP and just let all the poles and turks in to totaly **** this country . Why not pay more tax to keep them here so they can bump the crime rate throw the roof , at more expence to the tax payer . No one got my vote this year , there was not BNP in my area .

 

 

Not badly put for a moron . Get yourself to Poland and have a look at the death camps .

 

It's personal for reason ! Hope to meet you scaffman , then i maybe able to show you the sites and sounds of Auschwitz . i'll even pay !

 

An the rest of you's that want to vote for the BNP . YES I'VE VOTED FOR 'EM , I MIGHT HAVE EVEN BEEN MORE INTO THE WHITE POWER THING THAN I MAY LET ON .

 

i've not gone total lefty yet , but please think on .

 

all the best yis yp

[naddan28]

The influx of polish and european workers are generally resulting in a positive net effect to both our economy and society, I have nothing against people here who come to work, its more those that come for a free ride/sponge we should worry about.

 

As for crime rates, well unfortunately I don't think us english should shout to loud as most of the crime is caused by the lovable breed of chav/townie that infests most urban area's these days. The best bit about the townie, is in most cases we (taxpayers) actually pay for/subsidise their living costs yet they still feel the need to thief, mug and attack like a bunch of pillaging vikings.

 

BNP, seem to traditionally be the afformentioned "white" thugs I previously mentioned, who couldn't rub a brain cell between the lot of them. You seriously think the BNP could manage an economy like ours? With such racist image, would we still continue to attract the inward investment from "foreigners" that makes our country richer? Would we still hang on to that small shred of creditability we have on the international stage?

 

Rant over, just people should think things through before making rash decisions, espically regarding politics.

[pavman]

I have nothing against people here who come to work, its more those that come for a free ride/sponge we should worry about.

 

As for crime rates, well unfortunately I don't think us english should shout to loud as most of the crime is caused by the lovable breed of chav/townie

 

BNP, seem to traditionally be the afformentioned "white" thugs I previously mentioned, who couldn't rub a brain cell between the lot of them.

 

Rant over, just people should think things through before making rash decisions, espically regarding politics.

 

1, the free loaders and spongers should be routed out and sent packing

 

2, the police should spend more time cracking down on crime and not manning speed cams, and when they do the courts should give them hard labour and not a soft sentence and a wrist slap

 

3, the Cons, Labs, and Libs need a kick in the pants to remind them of what they say they will do but then don’t, who is going to do that if a load of soft plonkers are in power???

 

The wealth of this once Great Nation will be diluted by all who can take a piece of the pie until there is nothing left for the BRITISH

 

RULE BRITANNIA AND GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

[Highlander]

Lets not vote BNP and just let all the poles and turks in to totaly **** this country . Why not pay more tax to keep them here so they can bump the crime rate throw the roof , at more expence to the tax payer . No one got my vote this year , there was not BNP in my area .

 

Trouble is if you don't vote and lets face it not enough people do nowadays (thanks to politicians being such slimy ********) you then run the risk of the wrong people getting into power a la Hitler, Stalin, Saddam H et al and at the end of the day no matter how much I despise Mr Bliar and his lot I rather live under that regime or that of GWB than in say Iran!

[NorfolkBoy]

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The wealth of this once Great Nation will be diluted by all who can take a piece of the pie until there is nothing left for the BRITISH

 

RULE BRITANNIA AND GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

 

 

The United States of Europe is approaching - Tony Bliar will shortly be off to a premier EU job to oversee the next phase of 'unification' ...

[pavman]

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The wealth of this once Great Nation will be diluted by all who can take a piece of the pie until there is nothing left for the BRITISH

 

RULE BRITANNIA AND GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

 

 

The United States of Europe is approaching - Tony Bliar will shortly be off to a premier EU job to oversee the next phase of 'unification' ...

 

I wish you where wrong NB but alas i fear you are spot on

[Stealth Stalker]

The influx of polish and european workers are generally resulting in a positive net effect to both our economy and society, I have nothing against people here who come to work, its more those that come for a free ride/sponge we should worry about.

 

As for crime rates, well unfortunately I don't think us english should shout to loud as most of the crime is caused by the lovable breed of chav/townie that infests most urban area's these days. The best bit about the townie, is in most cases we (taxpayers) actually pay for/subsidise their living costs yet they still feel the need to thief, mug and attack like a bunch of pillaging vikings.

 

BNP, seem to traditionally be the afformentioned "white" thugs I previously mentioned, who couldn't rub a brain cell between the lot of them. You seriously think the BNP could manage an economy like ours? With such racist image, would we still continue to attract the inward investment from "foreigners" that makes our country richer? Would we still hang on to that small shred of creditability we have on the international stage?

 

Rant over, just people should think things through before making rash decisions, espically regarding politics.

 

I don't know what line of work your in? But me being a self employed kitchen/bedroom fitter mainly in the London area, ICan Not agree with your statement about the European influx being a good thing

 

I've been in the same business for 23 years now & have never known things so bad in London especially, the place is literally crawling with Poles & Eastern europeans undercutting British labour

 

In my own personal case losing a 40-50 kitchens a year contract to Poles confirmed my thoughts about this country that its rapidly going down the s**thole.

 

People will argue that I should reduce my costs to try & compete with them, but in all honesty I'm better off staying in bed These guys were getting £25 a day 12 blokes staying in a 2 bedroom flat paid for by there Polish gangmaster, he had over 50 Poles working for him

 

It would cost me over £25 a day just to run my van into town/ park/ congestion charge/ diesel/ employers liability ect ect

 

SS

[potshot]

I dont want to get into a debate about politics but does anyone know the British National Party's policy on Field Sports ??

 

Thanks GH

 

 

Try here

[pavman]

The influx of polish and european workers are generally resulting in a positive net effect to both our economy and society, I have nothing against people here who come to work, its more those that come for a free ride/sponge we should worry about.

 

As for crime rates, well unfortunately I don't think us english should shout to loud as most of the crime is caused by the lovable breed of chav/townie that infests most urban area's these days. The best bit about the townie, is in most cases we (taxpayers) actually pay for/subsidise their living costs yet they still feel the need to thief, mug and attack like a bunch of pillaging vikings.

 

BNP, seem to traditionally be the afformentioned "white" thugs I previously mentioned, who couldn't rub a brain cell between the lot of them. You seriously think the BNP could manage an economy like ours? With such racist image, would we still continue to attract the inward investment from "foreigners" that makes our country richer? Would we still hang on to that small shred of creditability we have on the international stage?

 

Rant over, just people should think things through before making rash decisions, espically regarding politics.

 

I don't know what line of work your in? But me being a self employed kitchen/bedroom fitter mainly in the London area, ICan Not agree with your statement about the European influx being a good thing

 

I've been in the same business for 23 years now & have never known things so bad in London especially, the place is literally crawling with Poles & Eastern europeans undercutting British labour

 

In my own personal case losing a 40-50 kitchens a year contract to Poles confirmed my thoughts about this country that its rapidly going down the s**thole.

 

People will argue that I should reduce my costs to try & compete with them, but in all honesty I'm better off staying in bed These guys were getting £25 a day 12 blokes staying in a 2 bedroom flat paid for by there Polish gangmaster, he had over 50 Poles working for him

 

It would cost me over £25 a day just to run my van into town/ park/ congestion charge/ diesel/ employers liability ect ect

 

SS

 

SS, wish you all the best mate, lets hope we get a few Pole MP's who do the job in Westminster for 25% of the current wages, and lets see what happens then

[naddan28]

SS i feel sorry for you but if you read my post the word GENERALLY are there. Unfortunately in these situations not everybody can be winners but in general the poles are helping prop up an aging country. As for my line of work well, currently a student come july an accountant for BAE Systems so tbh cheap polish labour doesn't effect me, as most wouldn't get the relevant clearance required to even work on site let alone as an accountant.

[il cacciatore]

Wouldn't be too sure about that naddan. Don't know about your uni but mine has its fair share of polish immigrants getting degrees. Why can't they work as an accountant? Nothing to stop them, I'm sure accountancy degrees are fairly european wide standard.

 

Supply and demand. The supply will outstrip the demand driving prices down into the bargain, not to mentions that they will do the job for half what we would consider it because when they take it back to Poland it is worth a fortune.

[russuk]

My dentist is a polish chap, he's alright, funny accent though.

[JohnGalway]

I remember a few years back over here, the BNP had a push on to set up a kind of sister party in Ireland. Basically they weren't exactly run out of town, people were too busy falling in the streets laughing at the idea so they just left of their own accord. Besides the lunatic fringe is all full up here anyway

[Stealth Stalker]

Your lucky Naddan

 

But never under estimate the powers of a Pole, money talks and if there's someone out there thats willing to do your job for a quarter of what you're happy with. Then you could be looking for a new job

 

Don't get me wrong I've got nothing against the Poles, most of them are great guys, I was the last British worker on site & I knew it was a matter of time before I was out Talking to them, most of them hate it here working a 10-12 hour day 6 days a week, no tea breaks. Most of their money they earn goes back to the familys in Poland.

 

I know that I won't be contributing anywhere near what I was, to the coffers of that scrote of a man Gordon Brown. And they (the Poles) sure as hell wont be either.

 

SS

[naddan28]

Your lucky Naddan

 

But never under estimate the powers of a Pole, money talks and if there's someone out there thats willing to do your job for a quarter of what you're happy with. Then you could be looking for a new job

 

Don't get me wrong I've got nothing against the Poles, most of them are great guys, I was the last British worker on site & I knew it was a matter of time before I was out Talking to them, most of them hate it here working a 10-12 hour day 6 days a week, no tea breaks. Most of their money they earn goes back to the familys in Poland.

 

I know that I won't be contributing anywhere near what I was, to the coffers of that scrote of a man Gordon Brown. And they (the Poles) sure as hell wont be either.

 

SS

Could be but with skilled jobs like accounting, you new your qualifcation or your useless! Hence why when your training for 3 years your wages are ok then qualify and they shoot up, as your free to walk away and readily employable.

 

As to pole's doing degree's in accounting, yes its possible but again you are worth nothing till you qualify and when you are talking with looking after millions of pounds of budgets etc you pay the going rate, as believe me its better to pay someone 30k who is good at the job than someone 10k who is useless, as when people are billing hours at £300ph to sort out problems, the difference some becomes apparent! For example, my gf's dad owns a private pensions and wealth management firm and at the mo is busy for work no more time left. Some bloke phoned up and asked him to sort out a problem, he said no so the bloke offered him a paid meal radcliffes london and then discuss it over dinner. So obviously my girlfriends dad went, probably ordered the most expensive bits off the menu and then agreed to do the work at a premium. So he got £250ish pound meal and is now charging the bloke £400 per hour to sort out this problem which was caused by him trying to take quick shortcuts with cheap labour. You do the maths, even if he saved £10k on labour that will be eaten up by around 20 hours of work at £400ph putting the mistake right!

 

Afterall I am sure BAE would rather employ me at 4 times the price than "loose" a eurofighter or some debtors. Due to some clueless pole accountant! lol

[Stealth Stalker]

Fair point Naddan as I said your lucky not to be in direct competition with cheap European labour, but to take the I'm alright Jack attitude will only make matters worse

 

The point I'm trying to make is there's plenty of British tradesmen out there with expensive mortgages, bills, taxes etc that are being priced out of work

 

I remember when my local super market had housewives & elderly Brits serving you at the tills, now they're all Indians & Eastern Europeans that can't speak English

 

I apologize if I am sounding like a Nazi but when things affect you personally, that's when you realise that this country cares more about the immigrants they've let flood in than they do the every day working Brit

 

Still having no work allows me more time to get out in the countryside shooting & a mooching

I'm fortunate to have an understanding wife in a good job otherwise we'd be *****D.

 

I just wish it weren't raining the whole time

 

SS

[pavman]

Under my harsh exterior there beats a caring heart (give me a break) and I can sympathise with those wishing to make a better life for themselves. However on the news last night the estimate is that 1 million illegal workers have infiltrated our towns and cities, now they all have families they will do all they can to get into the promised land! Last year just 12,000 where deported so its not hard to see the scale of the growing problem.

 

I accept that many arrive by what is now considered legal routes and that they contribute to the system. Its also true we have many home grown whinging layabout scroungers. Like many I would love a better life lets say in the sleepy suburbs of Oz or the USA, what are my chances of getting in? Slim to none and slim is out of town! If I got caught creeping in I would be deported immediately,

 

My thought process is we should adopt the same rules, and I don’t care who leads the rout,,,, We are far to generous with the whinging scrounging scum that infests our country. Our pensioners have a pension increase that cant keep pace with poll tax and we are prepared to imprison them for non payment and if the government don’t mug them then some chav or druggy will, yet we hand out millions to all comers in the name of global progress,

 

It may sit ok with some of you but I am for change and the mainstream political parties need to wise up to the job at hand.

[Mungler]

The construction industry is a very tough and over regulated place for legitimate contractors to do business - legitimate contractors cannot compete on price and in this world run by accountants price considerations will override quality considerations.

 

What this Country needs is the Australian government - common sense and straight talking. The Australians aren't nazis and they don't need the BNP - I think they must be a more practical culture and less up their own ***** like most of the Islington dwelling Guardian readings numpties we have running and influencing our government.

 

I could never vote for the BNP, but the common thread here appears to be the perception that immigration is running out of control and nothing is being done. Economically, whilst there appears to be a desire to welcome cheap labour, if the money being paid to the immigrant workers is leaving the Country then long term it's a disaster.

[Troosers Too]

Mungler - for me you are absolutely bang on! Its not a very optimistic future either when the choice is between Grodon Brown or David Cameron. What I want is someone like Howard - the Aussie PM.

 

TT

[naddan28]

Sorry SS, wasn't meaning to come across with that attitude, just highlighting that thankfully I won't have to much/any direct competition for my career with cheaper labour.

 

I agree that there should be tightening up and deporting of 'illegals' immediately but what I was trying to get across is that a lot of the eastern european workers are doing some good rather than negative and they are certainly not responsible for crime rate rises!

 

Illegal immigrants on the other hand result in no taxes being paid and are more likely to turn to crime (IMO), plus with illegals you don't know there status i.e. escaped mass murderer??

 

Chavs, well is anything ever gonna happen? We have Cameron's hug a hoody and well good knows what from brown other than an asbo! Well Campbell, he is liberal so they probably want to buy butlins to solve the prison accomadation problems. Don't forget the amount of chav's/idiots we have represent a nice chunk of potential voters and the first rule of politics is to give the voters what they want.

[pavman]

Don't forget the amount of chav's/idiots we have represent a nice chunk of potential voters and the first rule of politics is to give the voters what they want.

 

 

nearer to the point is tell the voter anything to get the vote then do what you want regardless (please see Tony billy liar Blair) all you have to do then is say,,,,,,we will learn from this!

 

I wish I had a fiver for all the times this has been said over the years

 

I have e mailed the link for this thread to the BNP for a comment on their stance of field sports,,,,,,,we will get there in the end naddan!

[Stealth Stalker]

If any one is interested on channel 5 now is my old school, nothing seems to have changed since I was there.

 

SS

[digger]

I work for a large maintenance company in London and I would say 50 % of the workforce that subby for us are eastern european. All the blokes on the cards are English because that way they earn the same amount of money every day and do half the work the subbys do because their money is gaurenteed.

The biggest difference I have noticed is all the polish subs I use are increasing prices way beyond the normal rates. They have tasted good money and want more so now match prices put in by English tradesmen and therein lies the rub - two blokes give you a price to fit a kitchen, the difference between the two is £150. Do you go for the one who speaks English, lives half a mile away and has a sense of humour ?

Or do you choose the one who speaks broken pidgin English, lives on the other side of town and whose work force look like extras from 28 days later ?

The fact that they get work is not down to the government, its down to people making money off the back of them, be it home owners or companies.

One final thing, did you know Polish workers can return to Poland and claim back the tax they have paid over here ? No wonder they make so many trips home

[Stealth Stalker]

I was unaware that they can claim any tax paid back, no wonder they're all over here, to-ing & fro-ing.

 

I've heard that they're starting to up the day rates aswell

 

I've thought about employng a few of them myself, but alot of my work is in private ,word of mouth houses & to be honest I don't think I'd be able to leave them alone in someones house.

 

SS