Spewy Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Watching videos on gun fit all seem to be done with special adjustable shotguns Then have a stock made to your dimensions So for me not having the money for that What I'm getting at say I go to get the best fitting gun I can afford £1k what small adjustments can be made to the standard gun without breaking the bank as most important I read is gun fit gun fit Help Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Watching videos on gun fit all seem to be done with special adjustable shotguns Then have a stock made to your dimensions So for me not having the money for that What I'm getting at say I go to get the best fitting gun I can afford £1k what small adjustments can be made to the standard gun without breaking the bank as most important I read is gun fit gun fit Help Cheers Stock length adjusted by changing the butt pad for thicker/thinner and a comb raiser which will raise/lower the comb and allow cast adjustment. £200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spewy Posted July 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Do these come with some guns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Do these come with some guns?Yes, but usually more expensive ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 For your budget you can get a Miroku MK38 with an adjustable stock and still have change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spewy Posted July 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Held a silver pigeon me likey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Miroku, Browning, Beretta - all guns well within your range - even with an adjustable comb. You can't really go wrong with any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 You cannot fit a gun to someone unless they mount the gun in exactly the same place each and every time they mount it. Pre-mounting ( as in DTL for example ) will give someone a better chance to achieve a consistent mount, but mounting a gun on an already moving target ( as in live quarry shooting for example ) is an entirely different kettle of fish altogether. Practice, practice, practice......ad infinitum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 The gun fitting is getting the measurements it has nothing to do with the cost of the stock. Now once have your measurement you can either buy a gun very close or have a gun adjusted to those dimensions in various ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 You cannot fit a gun to someone unless they mount the gun in exactly the same place each and every time they mount it. Pre-mounting ( as in DTL for example ) will give someone a better chance to achieve a consistent mount, but mounting a gun on an already moving target ( as in live quarry shooting for example ) is an entirely different kettle of fish altogether. Practice, practice, practice......ad infinitum. Agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spewy Posted July 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Thanks for info Understand better now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 You cannot fit a gun to someone unless they mount the gun in exactly the same place each and every time they mount it. Pre-mounting ( as in DTL for example ) will give someone a better chance to achieve a consistent mount, but mounting a gun on an already moving target ( as in live quarry shooting for example ) is an entirely different kettle of fish altogether. Practice, practice, practice......ad infinitum. But also if the gun does not fit you can not mount the gun right . Get the gun fit right then learn to mount the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spewy Posted July 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 A friend told me to practice every night with mounting the gun till it becomes second nature I got my son a rizzini s/h and I use it aswell but I'm a lefty so looking for my own Worse think is my 14yr old daughter comes shooting with me and is now wanting to clay shoot Expensive year ahead me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 But also if the gun does not fit you can not mount the gun right . Get the gun fit right then learn to mount the gun.+1Get something that's right for you with good advice on developing a consistent style and you won't have to go back and correct unintended bad habits. A session with a good coach should help you select a suitable gun and give you a basis to work from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 A gun can't be fitted properly to a novice they need a consistent style and mount. However to allow the novice to develop a consistent style and mount they need a good that's a close fit, it's won't be perfect just close enough. As the novices style develops their gun fit will change so the stock will need adjusting, however these little adjustment are often wasted on the novice until they become consistent, at this point IMHO the gun should be fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 A gun can't be fitted properly to a novice they need a consistent style and mount. However to allow the novice to develop a consistent style and mount they need a gun that's a close fit, it won't be perfect, just close enough to start off. As the novices style develops their gun fit will change so the stock will need adjusting, however these little adjustment are often wasted on the novice until they become consistent, at this point IMHO the gun should be fitted. 100% agree with the above; Buy from a knowledgeable dealer - and buy a gun that 'fits' reasonably - in that its not the wrong hand (left or right), and is sensible length etc. Take a trial lesson from the dealer with the gun you are thinking to buy if possible. Then use it, practice, practice and more practice to develop a consistent mount and style. Once you have that - and it will be months not days, see a gun fitter. With luck, little or nothing will need changing, but it is likely that small adjustments will be needed. This does not have to cost a lot. Having a gun that fits well will make you quicker and more 'instinctive' and improve your results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 But also if the gun does not fit you can not mount the gun right . Get the gun fit right then learn to mount the gun.So how do you fit a gun to someone who mounts a gun in a different position each time they put it to their shoulder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 So how do you fit a gun to someone who mounts a gun in a different position each time they put it to their shoulder? You have answered your own question. Until the gun LOP is somewere near it wont go into that socket on your shoulder . Ok you get into a strange car what is the first thing you do , you move the seat back or forwards , to far back and you can not reach the pedals . To far forward you bang your knees . I was at the clayground the other day with my mate ,he had just got another gun . He said hell i am all over the place and missing these clays .here is someone who had shot for 40 years ,and a far better shot than me i took one look no wonder your missing the the gun is on your shoulder .but he could not see that when he had the gun mounted .he thought the gun was coming up right . You go out to buy a pair of shoes ,you know the size you are so you as for that size to small they are going to hurt , to big they are going to fall of . Something has to fit us before we can use it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mct94 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 A gun can't be fitted properly to a novice they need a consistent style and mount. However to allow the novice to develop a consistent style and mount they need a good that's a close fit, it's won't be perfect just close enough. As the novices style develops their gun fit will change so the stock will need adjusting, however these little adjustment are often wasted on the novice until they become consistent, at this point IMHO the gun should be fitted. +100 Exactly what I've just done myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spewy Posted July 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 I'm going to clay ground next week with a friend who will keep me right and his dad helped me last time so I'll get the help needed buying my first shotgun for me After first time at clays I think I have the bug:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 I'm going to clay ground next week with a friend who will keep me right and his dad helped me last time so I'll get the help needed buying my first shotgun for me After first time at clays I think I have the bug:) Were you shooting glenluce I'm going to clay ground next week with a friend who will keep me right and his dad helped me last time so I'll get the help needed buying my first shotgun for me After first time at clays I think I have the bug:) Were you shooting glenluce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spewy Posted July 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 No was at a ground in Devon near Newton abbot I think My friend down here shoots for Scotland so took me for a go at clays and I loved it I'm home 17th so will be joining glenluce and get there as much as I can to practice with my son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 You have answered your own question. Until the gun LOP is somewere near it wont go into that socket on your shoulder . Ok you get into a strange car what is the first thing you do , you move the seat back or forwards , to far back and you can not reach the pedals . To far forward you bang your knees . I was at the clayground the other day with my mate ,he had just got another gun . He said hell i am all over the place and missing these clays .here is someone who had shot for 40 years ,and a far better shot than me i took one look no wonder your missing the the gun is on your shoulder .but he could not see that when he had the gun mounted .he thought the gun was coming up right . You go out to buy a pair of shoes ,you know the size you are so you as for that size to small they are going to hurt , to big they are going to fall of . Something has to fit us before we can use it . It doesnt work like that I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 It doesnt work like that I'm afraid. I am sorry but it does my mates wife went for a gun fit /lesson at a very well known clayground first thing he said was you need a raised comb . So he sticks this plastic one on that should be better he said . The following week we had a round of 50 . She shot the worst she had ever done she hit 11 . I called to see her i asked did he check your LOP .no she said well i think your stock is to long for you i told her . So i took her butt pad of . No i said mount you gun . She mounts gun sh e says Wow that feels loads better . She say i can see the gun feels so right now . So stock through a bandsaw 3/4 inch of . Butt pad back on . Same round of 50 Clays 32 . That tells me something about gun fit and having the stock somewere near . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spewy Posted July 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Thanks for your info John Hope your around glenluce at the end of the month for some tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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