ditchman Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I guess for full disclosure I should probably warn you of this thread - http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/344205-today-i/ Before I start giving advice regarding sharp things and fingers... But seriously, it should help. yes i did read your post.............have you learnt to swear properly yet...and most important did anyone hear you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I'll try that tip with the Blu-Tac on the trigger of my old HW70 pistol. I'm getting similar results to you Ditchman and I'm a newcomer to pistol shooting and so going through the same learning curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 I'll try that tip with the Blu-Tac on the trigger of my old HW70 pistol. I'm getting similar results to you Ditchman and I'm a newcomer to pistol shooting and so going through the same learning curve. If the trigger is heavy then maybe something blunter than a thumb-tack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 If the trigger is heavy then maybe something blunter than a thumb-tack! I was going to mould the Blu-Tac around the part of the trigger that I didn't need to touch so only the part I should be touching is bare. (Blu-Tac is a sticky putty used to put posters up on walls). The trigger can be adjusted to an extent so is not too heavy. It is just the routine I need to get consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 BETTER SESSION TODAY i am at last starting to replicate my shots...and am sticking to a 5 point routine.. forehand shoulder sight breathing trigger when i deviate from this routine it always throws a flier into the bottom right quadrant.......which one of the numbers causes this , i am unsure...but at least all shots are predictable now...and i have hit the balance point where "i" dictate where the shot goes not the gun..... i now have complete confidence in the rifle...which now leaves me to concentrate on the 5 routines....i find i have a "zone" of no more than 4 secs to place the shot where i want it...if it exceeds that 4 secs i know just before i pull the trigger it will not go where i want it..... the trigger is now on the very lightest safe setting....i have not used the blue tack in this session on the trigger as i wanted to see first if the alterations had improved the standard ALL THE FLIERS were the first shots of every group.... the first target was at 12 metres not 10 as i had written... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) Evening gents, I had a good ol' scoot round looking for a a flight line and few pigeons. They weren't playing ball so I zeroed the BSA Stutzen and did a bit of plinking. I see this as a handy gun for ratty around the feeders on our shoot. Range was 30 paces and I got 10p sized groups off sticks when I did my bit. I've had a little work done, blackening the moderator shroud and polishing the rosewood forend. Decided against a full on stock strip and polish as a few dings and dongs on the woodwork show a bit of character. I thought a little scope ( Airmax 2-7 x 32) would be perfect as I won't be shooting anything beyond 30 yards. I'm pleased as punch with it. A few pics with Ditchies say so: Edited September 28, 2016 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASunnyD Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 That's a beautiful gun indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 now that looks like a tasy bit of kit.............and nice pics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Thank you boys. I used a few Wasps but Superdomes came out best. Will try a few others when i get a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Your fliers are in the same place every time. Could you be snatching the trigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Your fliers are in the same place every time. Could you be snatching the trigger? That's my guess. Tighten the trigger a touch so there is a definite step between stage 1 & 2 and relax before you pull the trigger that final millimetre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Your fliers are in the same place every time. Could you be snatching the trigger? zapp ...i dont know...everything leads to that....now that im comfortable with the 5 routines...i will continue to shoot the same groups...and eventually i will sort out what is causing these predictable fliers in the bottom right quadrant.....everything tells me that it is trigger ...(or at least that hand that is the cause...either the position of my hand or the way i pull the trigger)........ i will continue to post until i have bottomed this out ......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 I'm not sure if people get what I mean by the blue tack and thumbtack, so I drew a quick sketch Black is the trigger shoe, Blue is the blue tack Yellow is the thumb tack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 IANO.....................im having a little trouble with understanding this blue tac drawing pin thingy.........can you please explain it as if i have a mental age of 6 and a half................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 IANO.....................im having a little trouble with understanding this blue tac drawing pin thingy.........can you please explain it as if i have a mental age of 6 and a half................. This making sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 right i can see that.............why do i need to impale myself in the sharp thing............i have enough pain in my life already.....or is it ...i should place my finger below the sharp thing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Yep, use the pointy thing when you shoot. If you have a light trigger, it will mean that every shot will: a) be fired from the same point on your finger b) when you depress the trigger, you won't be riding the blade. If it works, you can make up something less 50 shades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Yep, use the pointy thing when you shoot. If you have a light trigger, it will mean that every shot will: a) be fired from the same point on your finger b) when you depress the trigger, you won't be riding the blade. If it works, you can make up something less 50 shades right ...i will get a felt roofing tack and file the end off...tidy it up and do the blue tac thing...................see where you are coming from now ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Looking at "Whitebridges" BSA stutz'................his 1980 ish....mine is 86-7....has anyone got a webley&scott mk3 with a scope on it...or a BSA Meteor with scope........post them up on this thread...it was a great time for quality made air rifles 1960-late 1980's.......... would be nice to see......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASunnyD Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 My remington has a "cheap Chinese trigger" I'm not trying this, I won't pull the trigger at all until that tack hits the bone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 hello, well after reading this post from the start and looking at the rifle now can only say you have done a cracking job of restoration ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 hello, well after reading this post from the start and looking at the rifle now can only say you have done a cracking job of restoration ditchman cheers for that..............i must say that BSA stutz' of whitebridges is a joy to behold....i think im going to visit the acle sale once a mth on the gun sale day ...see if i can pick a shoddy one of those up and do a restoration of one of those... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Right.....i have now modified the trigger..........i found the best thing to use was a rivet that had the aluminuim shroud cut off....as the rivet shank has a round ball on the end......it is a "interference" fit so if it dont work , it can be easily removed. i have test fired it ...and it feels very very comfortable...and i can feel all of the trigger movement...and feel straightaway i have far more control of the breakpoint , which feels much smoother........but as IANO says i can now replicate the finger placement on the trigger the same every time.....so i will see what results this produces.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 cheers for that..............i must say that BSA stutz' of whitebridges is a joy to behold....i think im going to visit the acle sale once a mth on the gun sale day ...see if i can pick a shoddy one of those up and do a restoration of one of those... If ever you go Ditchy I wouldn't mind joining you. As we say, I've never bin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 If ever you go Ditchy I wouldn't mind joining you. As we say, I've never bin. they are once / mth......the last one was on the 22nd.....so i will give you a shout before the sale for the viewing day......you maybe able to view online....i havnt enuff speed at the moment to do so...maybe you try and see what the 22nd sale ammounted to............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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