eastdevon Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Went out this morning for a walk to see what I could get in the bag, had a few usual of the corvids and a nice pheasant but sadly what I was really after I didn't even see a single one of.....where oh WHERE are they pigeons too??? Anyone in my area seen any about?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 if you went out today, should you have shot a pheasant,on a sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooooper1 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 all on pontypool mountain thousands flying over my place every morning funny thing is never see them coming back in the same numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastdevon Posted December 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Mossy your correct in saying pheasant on a Sunday, but I had permission from the gamekeeper to have one cock bird. His way of saying thanks for all the crows I have been shooting for him. Cooooper see if you can send some my way lol!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masher Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 I'm in the area and your best bet is to look at any rape you have permission on, the yearly migration that comes through every year hasn't on this occasion (1st time in the last 10yrs) so there isn't the numbers around like there usually is, you have just got to put the miles in and find them like I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooooper1 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Mossy your correct in saying pheasant on a Sunday, but I had permission from the gamekeeper to have one cock bird. His way of saying thanks for all the crows I have been shooting for him. Cooooper see if you can send some my way lol!!! i`ll ask them in the morning flight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Not finding a fault eastdevon , but can a game keeper give anyone permission to shoot game on a Sunday ?? , I wouldn't have thought so , but I might be wrong , can somebody more wiser on the subject than me clarify this please , might stop somebody ending up in court . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 all on pontypool mountain thousands flying over my place every morning funny thing is never see them coming back in the same numbers? Think I'll have to move back Up The Garn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brixsmaid Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) For Englandshire boys: From various shooting sources ; "As well as adhering to the seasons, game may not be taken on Sundays or Christmas Day." Think the Game Act 1831, still stands and it says: 3. If any person whatsoever shall kill or take any game, or use any dog, gun, net, or other engine or instrument for the purpose of killing or taking any game, on a Sunday or Christmas Day, such person shall, on conviction thereof before two justices of the peace, forfeit and pay for every such offence such sum of money, not exceeding [ F3 level 1 on the standard scale] , as to the said justices shall seem meet, . . . F4 Edited December 5, 2016 by Brixsmaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Not finding a fault eastdevon , but can a game keeper give anyone permission to shoot game on a Sunday ?? , I wouldn't have thought so , but I might be wrong , can somebody more wiser on the subject than me clarify this please , might stop somebody ending up in court . Lol,no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Lol,no! Thanks for that sako751sg , I thought that was the case, and it would pay the ops keeper friend to squat up on the law before someone end up losing there s g c . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastdevon Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I personally not into all this game shooting thing and after being questioned I have since shown said game keeper that he put me on the wrong side of law as he did also himself. His answer was ohwell, ohwell I said in return to him get someone else to shoot ya crows! Yes I loose myself a permission to shoot upon but I have plenty of others! Thanks to all who have opened my eyes to the game scene especially the law side of it all. Lol funny really said game keeper rang my wife while I was at work, cant post here her reply to him as she was well lets say had a choice of words for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 You should have just put it down to experience and moved on that way you would still be able to shoot there. You won't be the first to have done it or the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastdevon Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 B725 I would have put it down to being a lesson learnt but when I spoke to him about the shooting on a Sunday he suddenly got rather rude with bad language infront of my 5 year old daughter. This I do not tolerate at all and so I said my good byes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Fair point,he should not have spoken like that in front of your little one. Shooting doesn't need keepers like him don't let it put you off just make sure you know what and when you can shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastdevon Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 B725 have just spoken to a FAO who lives in my road, he going to kindly get me a copy of all the firearms and game laws all in exchange for me to valet his wife's car.... Fair deal me thinks!! He not put myself off he just lost a gunner who used to go shoot his crows at a moments notice!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 You should have just put it down to experience and moved on that way you would still be able to shoot there. You won't be the first to have done it or the last. Was going to post that this qualifies as an increasingly rare commodity B725 I would have put it down to being a lesson learnt but when I spoke to him about the shooting on a Sunday he suddenly got rather rude with bad language infront of my 5 year old daughter. This I do not tolerate at all and so I said my good byes. but in view of this, I'll just comment, good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 B725 have just spoken to a FAO who lives in my road, he going to kindly get me a copy of all the firearms and game laws all in exchange for me to valet his wife's car.... Fair deal me thinks!! He not put myself off he just lost a gunner who used to go shoot his crows at a moments notice!! Put this on your Christmas prezzy list: Fair Game by Charlie Parkes and John Thornley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It does seem a shame that through lack of experience that he was wrongly told to shoot what he did but it will happen again. When the defacation hits the ventilation all the keeper will do is tell the police that he never said anything of the sort.let's hope that other's who are unsure learn a little from this and carry enjoying their shooting. Well done for trying to put thing's right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Nice to see eastdevon wasn't pulled to bits , sound like a genuine mistake who was given wrong information by someone who should have known better . There are a lot of good guys on here who will gladly give there time and knowledge to the next generation or even some of us older members who might need a little help on different subjects other than field sports. Thanks to all and good luck for the remainder of the season . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypig Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 B725 have just spoken to a FAO who lives in my road, he going to kindly get me a copy of all the firearms and game laws all in exchange for me to valet his wife's car.... Fair deal me thinks!! He not put myself off he just lost a gunner who used to go shoot his crows at a moments notice!! Just use the BASC website... all the info you need I would be unhappy with a FEO doing anything which is within his employment remit in exchange for goods and services.... I'll take a pm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastdevon Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Its not a proper exchange as he is a good friend as well as being my neighbour, his wife just bought a spanking new car and he wants it proper gleaming for his daughters wedding this weekend, I used to be a full time sprucer so he knows it will get done properly!! Watched him clean it and he cant even use a pressure washer correctly lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1gun Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) OK, so how would we stand if said Pheasant was/or looked wounded, i see plenty of pricked Birds when going around feeding on a Sunday. I know you can dispatch a wounded Deer by any means necessary so as to prevent suffering and it doesn't say Not on a Sunday, would the same not apply to a Pheasant? I know the Pheasant was just shot in this case, but you have me wondering. Kev1gun Edited December 6, 2016 by Kev1gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 As far as I can see (which doesn't help much) there doesn't appear to be any legislation for this so commonsense probably applies and be prepared to defend your action - unless you're in Scotland. Naturally, you had your gun for vermin control around the feeders. Am I right in believing that there is a reason why the game seasons (where applicable) end on the 1st of the month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brixsmaid Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) As far as I can see (which doesn't help much) there doesn't appear to be any legislation for this so commonsense probably applies and be prepared to defend your action - unless you're in Scotland. Naturally, you had your gun for vermin control around the feeders. Am I right in believing that there is a reason why the game seasons (where applicable) end on the 1st of the month? I'd start with The Game Act 1831, still stands as far a I can tell in England😀 Edited December 6, 2016 by Brixsmaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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