washerboy Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I have been given some size 6 and 5 shot shot 32g cartridges to try , I can have several boxes if my gun likes them. My question is could I try them in my gun at a clay ground or it a frowned up or totally against the rules? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Most grounds say size 6 maximum. I'd maybe try a couple of each and then just use normal clay loads again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 the grounds i use are 6.5 max size and 28 grms max . use at your own risk as you stand a fair chance of being banned from the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 If it's against the rules I shall just hang fast until I get a day on the pigeons or rabbits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 It's no bigger than shot size 7 and max 28gram at our club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Ask the ground, many grounds are fine on certain stands but larger shot travels further so may well go beyond the allowed area, but if there are traps (rabbit) where the shot is directed at the ground this should not be an issue. I know a couple of local grounds are ok on certain stands (watch where you park though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 As long as you ask first and explain it's a tryout, you'll likely be OKed for it at certain stands -- but otherwise the grounds I know of are limiting to 28g of 7.5's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bb Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 As has been said, this size shot is usually a "no-no" at clay grounds. Also, you haven't said if they're plastic or fibre wad, plastic's also a "no-no" at many clay grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Vast majority of clay grounds allow plastic wads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bb Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Vast majority of clay grounds allow plastic wads. Not round here they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Speaking of large shots -- I was at E.J Churchill earlier, and as I was on the main parking, i could hear plinking of shots on the cars -- found one landing on mine, and it was clearly not 7.5" !! it was more like 5's! Some idiot was very likely 'training' driven clays with stupid game cartridges... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) quote ..... if my gun likes them The only easy way to find that out is to pattern test them on a pattern plate or a large metre square sheet of paper. Check the pattern at 35yrds with whatever chokes you intend shooting and see if your good to go. Only needs a couple of shots and the rest you can use for real time fun. If you want to check penetration then a good way to simulate say a pigeon or pheasant breast is soak some tightly wrapped news print overnight in a bucket of water, build up a layer of at least 1 inch thick and a foot square and place on the plate/board at 35yrds nd fire a shot at it it. Good penetration will go clear through. I do it on a 3/8th sheet of hard ply board and I am happy if the pellets also bury themselves at least a pellet deep in the board. After all that then the final result is all up to you, not the gun :-) Edited December 20, 2016 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Speaking of large shots -- I was at E.J Churchill earlier, and as I was on the main parking, i could hear plinking of shots on the cars -- found one landing on mine, and it was clearly not 7.5" !! it was more like 5's! Some idiot was very likely 'training' driven clays with stupid game cartridges... Top or bottom car Park? Happens a lot there, I have raised it with the clubhouse and they couldn't care less... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Top or bottom car Park? Happens a lot there, I have raised it with the clubhouse and they couldn't care less... Top one, in front of the stairs up in fact. The bottom car park I'd expect it a bit more, that's why I always park to the left of it... I've been 'told' that it's OK to shoot plastic too; as they do CPSA shoots anyway -- so the rule of 28g 7.5 fiber is only for people who are silly enough to follow the rules and are polite. Otherwise, just blast away, it appears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) ...so the rule of 28g 7.5 fiber is only for people who are silly enough to follow the rules and are polite. Otherwise, just blast away, it appears. Trouble, is, they invent a good rule, then add a bit and render it ridiculous, after which people won't pay any attention at all. Smaller shot for clays is a good rule. I rather like it - especially since I've been hit with #7½ at about 100 yards in the past and - put it this way - I'm glad it wasn't #4 or #5. 28g of shot for reasons of fairness - also great. Trouble is, when people read those signs, they have this vague sort of idea, that more or less shot makes for a better or worse pattern, but doesn't make the cartridge hit any harder - and they're broadly right, if the shot sizes are the same. They also sometimes end up asking themselves the question about why 28g is acceptable, but 32g is not acceptable, when you the 56g you throw out there by having two shots at the same clay goes back to being acceptable? ("Is it a pattern? 60g out of an 8 bore - absolutely not - but the full 84g - that's ok, right?") So they ignore the rule altogether and start banging away with #5's as you've reported - "because 32g doesn't hit any harder than 28g, does it!?" If they just said "#7½ and smaller, ONLY", they'd be back to a good rule and people would probably pay attention. Edited December 21, 2016 by neutron619 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnykiller Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 It's no bigger than shot size 7 and max 28gram at our club Is that the same with plastic wads too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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