flyeruk Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) I am about to apply for my FAC. I have two gun cabinets. I was going to store my shotguns in one cabinet and the rifles in the other. Neither of the cabinets have a separate ammo compartment. My question is,can i store the rimfire ammo in with the shotguns or do i still need to get a separate ammo safe? Edited February 2, 2017 by flyeruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I keep my .22 in an Argos lockable coin box inside the cabinet...also holds the mod & bolt- FEO has never questioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 There are no hard rules. you just have to store the stuff so that a casual person can't just help themselves to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 My FEO asked me to get a lockable petty cash tin type of thing and keep it in my cabinet. A small cheap safe did the job, fills the bottom of my cabinet and the rifles sit on top of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 My FEO asked me to get a lockable petty cash tin type of thing and keep it in my cabinet. A small cheap safe did the job, fills the bottom of my cabinet and the rifles sit on top of it. this is another case of the feos making it up as they go along again. A. if someone has gotten into your gun cabinet, how safe or how much resistance would that little tin box provide. B. ammo should not be kept in a metal container becase in the event of a fire it becomes a potential bomb. it should be in a wooden box. this is all in the guidlines somewhere. like powder storage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) ammo should be kept in a metal container. Black powdershould be in a wooden box or plastic container. Reason being black powder is an explosive if contained. bullets are not an explosive .they do not prose much risk unless in a breech and a metal box actually offers protection in the event of a fire this is all in the guidlines look up hse storage of black powder for pdf also some info here http://www.bristolmuzzleloaders.co.uk/Muzzleloading/blackpowderstore.htm A bullet is a projectile which will not be in a chamber.the brass may rupture but will not fire outside of the metal box the pressure will release in all directions . so store your rimfire rounds in a secure metal box as the British army have done for a 100 years.it's safer that way..secure and safe the box will offer protection in the event of Fire and this is the recommended storage for rounds Edited February 3, 2017 by psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Section 414 of that info states >>> 414. Metal boxes, including ammunition boxes, are not suitable and must not be used. This is because, firstly while metal is fire resistant it also transmits heat very well and secondly, because the metal container adds additional containment that significantly increases the explosive power of the powder. This is stated in somewhere in the home office guidance. I can't be bothered to go hunting for it. I know that the article is mainly about Powder but I'm this equally applies to metallic ammunition. If ammunition is confined it becomes a bomb. Although the risk of house fires involving ammunition is very limited the potential is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Section 1 ammo should be kept in a metal container or safe. That's why ammo safes are metal. As far as the guidance for storing S1 ammo goes, it needs to be locked away separately from the S1 guns. Whether that's in a cabinet of it's own or in with your shotguns, makes no difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Not sure how much rimfire ammo you think I have in my cabinet but in the event of a fire I think my missus' tins of hairspray are going to be a much greater risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyeruk Posted February 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Thanks for all the replies I decided to go out and buy a seperate locking safe to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I use one of these bolted to the wall on top of my cabinet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Mine goes in the ammo section of my gun safe, which could be prised open with a coin but my feo is happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 "reasonable precautions" thats it no safe required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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