red_stag88 Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 If its been made illiagl and you do it, you are a criminal. How does that sound to you RH, your sixteenish, and your a criminal. If you do it, serves you right if you get caught, and I bloody well hope you do - for simply being such a fool as to posting it. There is the possiblilty that we all do illeagel things, some may drink drive, some may take drugs, some may speed, some may have been involed in petty theft. What is the point in saying "I did such and such, here is a photo and my adress. Plus all you antis reading this, why not quote me and ban snaring all together" (not to mention that this month snareing has been in the press) Frankly I dont care if you use locking snares, I don't agree with them, but dont preach to the world about breaking the rules! I dont me to jump at you, but it seems to be the only way to get ones point across. Normally you seem to have some sense RH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit hunter Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Dont mean to be a b@stard, bt as they say; everyone to themselves. TC as an example, you are out long-netting one night, you see 60+ rabbits in a field, that you dont have permission to be one; do you do it? As long as you dont use the light, no1 wil be any the wiser. As far as police goes, they stop by the side of the road when they see the lamp then look about the field with a fairly **** spotlight, we just get ourselves back of the dyke and dont get seen. As i say, dont mean to be a b@stard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Rabbit hunter-- if i see you or your chums on my land prepare to run as you will have an ex. police dog and an angry fat ****** after you!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Dont mean to be a b@stard, bt as they say; everyone to themselves.TC as an example, you are out long-netting one night, you see 60+ rabbits in a field, that you dont have permission to be one; do you do it? As long as you dont use the light, no1 wil be any the wiser. As far as police goes, they stop by the side of the road when they see the lamp then look about the field with a fairly **** spotlight, we just get ourselves back of the dyke and dont get seen. As i say, dont mean to be a b@stard RH, he may do. But he doesnt tell every one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 The idea that free running snares are more humane, is reasonable. The animal will almost strangle itself and pass out. The noose will then become slack and he will be able to breath again. When he comes round they are expected to stay quiet until someone finds them. That's the theory, anyway. A snare with a stop on it, will not render the animal unconcious, so it continues to do itself harm by flailing about. Self-locking snares are seen as inhumane because they might catch the animal around the waist. Badgers seem to get their head and one front leg through, quite often. You can quite often release any non-target animal from a free-running snare with little damage to it. Of course, if the animal has allready jumped over a fence or branch, with a free-running noose around it's neck, it's done for. You don't then have to upset the neighbours, in the garden next door, with a gunshot! I think free running snares are the only legal ones now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 And dont forget your little bells to keep nox's away from your dinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Have you ever tried to get a badger out of a snare rjimmer? I don't like the thought of it. As for the thoery of the fox staying quiet until someone finds it is so true. Last year I was checking the snares one day and I saw a fox in one and it wasn't moving so I presumed it was dead and as I went to reach for the snare the plonker jumped up (I dirtied them at that point) and recieved a 7 1/2 to the head. Believe it or not in that same day the exact same thing happened with another fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Have you ever tried to get a badger out of a snare rjimmer? I don't like the thought of it. When I was doing it a bit, badgers weren't on the protected list and we were selling the skins. Ever skinned a badger? Ever eaten a badger? I had one in a roadside hedge once. It had got caught around the waist so is had four wheel drive, so to speak. There was about 5 cwt of earth in the road. I untied the string from the bush stump it was attached to and there I was with the end of the string held at arms length trying to hit it on the head with a peck axe handle in the other hand. Good job ot wasn't a full grown one. I wouldn't have been able to lift it off the ground at arms length. Good job the road was closed at the time for some drainage work to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Ha ha very good rjimmer, I knew it wouldn't be the nicest of things tring to get a live one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbus Polumbus Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Think I need to clarify a few things here:- Firstly, the surelock thingy if set up INCORRECTLY turns your snare into an illegal item. Secondly, I have checked the legal status and to use such components in the correct manner is completely legal hence my request for help. Thirdly, I will not and do not condone any illegal activities by anyone when in pursuit of our sport: I dont do it period. I value my tickets too much for that. So can anyone help? Col Pol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Col Pol DMD C locks appear to run $3.50 a dozen Cam Locks between $6.50 and $8.25 dozen Slide locks $4.00 a dozen How ever try this site : http://www.trapperman.com/trapperman/making_snare.html If that link doesn't work go to http://www.trapperman.com follow down the homepage to trap sets then under Misc. you will find making snares. This thread shows how to make washer locks , with the proper offset holes etc. worth having a look at. Hope this helps....Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Thirdly, I will not and do not condone any illegal activities by anyone when in pursuit of our sport: I dont do it period. I value my tickets too much for that. So can anyone help? Col Pol Who was commenting on doing anything illegal? Most of the people on here I think are law binding citizens so I think your preaching to the minority, I don't mean to offend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quercus Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Col Pol, you might also want to try phoning Solway, I deal with them a fair bit and always find them very helpful. They produce their own snare with a "rocking eye" which doesn't appear on the website. I would be surprised if they can't supply you with their "rocking eyes". Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbus Polumbus Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Thanks Q (sounds very James bondish huh? ) I did have quite a conversation with them, they told me they know what it is and that they have been trying for ages to source the part I need but to no avail. Ollie: I was just making my position very clear as the part I am looking for if added incorrectly makes the snare a locking snare which is illegal in the UK but set the other way it is legal, it difficult to explain. I didn't take offence Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbus Polumbus Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Thanks Nttf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Ollie: I was just making my position very clear as the part I am looking for if added incorrectly makes the snare a locking snare which is illegal in the UK but set the other way it is legal, it difficult to explain. I didn't take offence Thanks guys sorry col pol I may have took that up the wrong way :*) No problem if yu need any more advice just ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbus Polumbus Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 No apology needed ollie, if you know where I could get the part I need you'd be a bloody star............ Col Pol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 I wouldn't have a clue where you could find that part, I'm sure some retailer is bound to have it. If not buy a dozen already made ones, its a lot handier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velveteens Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Hi,bore the backside of you again.Young's of misterton (gamekeepers supplies) for all links and clips on fox wires. Bowden cable can be obtained on the roll from a good spares dealer (automotive).Any thickness you want it is what they use for throttle and choke cables.Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbus Polumbus Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Do they have a website I could look at VT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 Do they have a website I could look at VT? They might not even have electricity! I didn't know they were still running! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbus Polumbus Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 rjimmer Would you have a phone number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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