Old farrier Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Only use fetch Hup heel back over and a bit on a the whistle cant abide a heap of dog handlers hooting and hollering personaly like dog to think for itself just my way all the best of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 That’s what you call dog ? and handler in harmony my fellow tradesmen you don’t see that very often these days.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shropshire-jon Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 My commands are as follows come here ( recall ) pip pip pip pip arms outstretched sideward's sit ( which means put your **** to the floor and don't move until told to do so ) long whistle blow ( which means sit ) arm raised shot fired ( which means sit ) gun raised bird or game flush ( which means sit ) get out ( from heal which means retrieve ) no hand signal if its a seen retrieve if its a blind then push arm in the direction of the fall lost ( which means hunt that area for a retrieve ) no hand signal whistle short pip followed rapidly by a long decreasing volume pip get back ( retrieve from not at heal ) arm pushed upward get on ( which means hunt for game ) no hand signal gone away ( return to heal from a retrieve ) arms outstretched sideward leave that ( don't retrieve that bird or game I want a different bird or game ) I have all these with a young ( green ) spaniel apart from drop to shot and drop to flush. these take a lot of training and a lot of time. Those are the commands I use but dog don't understand English so any repetitive sound or signal will do as long as it is repetitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 10/01/2018 at 12:29, ips said: does anyone still use the old spaniel terms hie lost & hie on ?? One here who uses hie lost.. Get in, find it, work it out are three hunt commands. Back used for retrieve. Hie lost when close and i want him to find and pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lozrob Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 i have a 1 1/2 year old springer named molly. i use , GO FIND EM ------ to hunt, quarter her beat. HUP ------- to sit and stay sat. BACK ----- to retrieve. 1 pip on whistle---- to turn left or right with hand signals ( she quarters well on her own so dont use this much ) 1 long pip ----- STOP NOW. 4 quick pips ------ recall back to me. we have been working full on with all the above commands to get some sort of control , although , she has heard the gun in conjunction with hunting , flushing and retrieving. im looking forward to getting her out there and carry on with the next stage of training. good luck every body , and maybe see some of you at the beginning of march. thanks. loz and molly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Anything as long as the dog knows what you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lozrob Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 hi fellow gundog trainers, over the weekend i did a check up of commands i use. 4 pips for recall ( with lots of molly,molly,molly ) 1 pip for turning left / right with hand signals and lots of excited here molly , here molly . 1 hard 2 second pip , MEANING STOP NOW, usually followed by SSSSTTTTOOOOOPPPPP , and trying to then run like a 6 foot, 16 stone lump with 6 inch legs. BACK for a retrieve .any retrieve. DEAD to let go of a retrieve. HUP to sit and stay sat . usually followed by another 2 /3 HUPS. OVER to clear an obstacle. GO FIND EM , WHERE IS IT , GO FIND EM to start her hunting, which if i dont HUP first she will go hunting anyway no need to tell her to start. GO PEE for the obvious when your trying to get to bed at 11pm. have fun everybody , its not that bad. lol. loz and molly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted February 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 haha. on a serious note I have paid more attention to my commands recently both verbal and visible and I have concluded that I think I sometimes confuse her....for instance my retrieve command (unmarked such as sweeping) is get out...my hunt command (whilst beating so sposed to be close) is get in. But what if she only registers the get and is that why sometimes she pulls out a bit when beating. I have also realised that in certain moments of frustration or anxiety my four pip recal becomes many pips so the command is lost. I am going to simplify all of my commands this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lozrob Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 dont forget the most important thing , LOTS OF PRAISE , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted February 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 indeed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 well to get my cocker hunting i just tell him to stay close....seems to work ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted February 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 funny you should mention that for the last few months I have been working on a "close" command. The idea is that "close" means just mooch about at my feet which I require a lot of when beating the estate rather than my usual "get on" which is hunting out to seventeen yards which is required for syndicate and walked up. It's not engrained yet but hope it will be by next season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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