Esca Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Looking for some advise on reloading for the 28 bore. I have previously reloaded for rifles. I have done a quite a bit of research on the subject and ended thinking, this is going to get complicated, with different case types, wads powder primers etc. So can anyone help point me in the right direction with refrence to a good powder wad combanation. I am looking to load for mainly game/ pidgeon I am looking 26-28gram with plactic wad I will be purchasing a mec 600 jr as soon as my bank balance allows. Cheers in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketestace Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Contact John at FES reloading, A very help full chap indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esca Posted April 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 15 hours ago, biketestace said: Contact John at FES reloading, A very help full chap indeed Many thanks intresting web site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cervusman Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) I have a Mec 600 28b conversion kit that I don’t use for sale if that’s any help Edited April 20, 2018 by cervusman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatsanmad Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 You will need a slow burn powder so me personally will be looking towards maxam ssb150 or vecton ao or if you have deeper pockets Hodgdon lilith gun if you can get it. Wads I would use B&P wads primers cheddite Cx2000. As for data I can't help on that sorry but you won't go wrong with vecton or maxam powders and B&P wads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esca Posted April 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 On 19/04/2018 at 19:57, hatsanmad said: You will need a slow burn powder so me personally will be looking towards maxam ssb150 or vecton ao or if you have deeper pockets Hodgdon lilith gun if you can get it. Wads I would use B&P wads primers cheddite Cx2000. As for data I can't help on that sorry but you won't go wrong with vecton or maxam powders and B&P wads Many thanks. I noticed that the ssb150 powder feature in qiue a few articals. On 19/04/2018 at 17:38, cervusman said: I have a Mec 600 28b conversion kit that I don’t use for sale if that’s any help Hi Cervusman thanks you for the offer, it is certanly food for thought. How dificult are the presses to convert from the 12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 Why would you need 26gram -28gram loads for a 28 bore ??????????????????????? Have you heard of a 12 bore shotgun ? They seem to be popular and cheaper to buy than 28 bores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cervusman Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 Changing calibers on the Mec 600 press is very easy to do, takes about 5-10 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esca Posted April 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Salopian said: Why would you need 26gram -28gram loads for a 28 bore ??????????????????????? Have you heard of a 12 bore shotgun ? They seem to be popular and cheaper to buy than 28 bores. Many reasons. Lighter to carry comfortable to shoot, I find them easier to swing through, and above all personnel preference. If you get a chance to try one, give it a go it might surprise you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Esca, I have guns from .410 to 4 Bore includes numerous 28 gauge SxS & O/U I have used and tested and reloaded various weights of cartridge for 28 bore and you will find 3/4 oz ideal . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esca Posted April 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Salopian said: Esca, I have guns from .410 to 4 Bore includes numerous 28 gauge SxS & O/U I have used and tested and reloaded various weights of cartridge for 28 bore and you will find 3/4 oz ideal . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 I tried 28gram in the 28 when i had it and found 23 or 24 gram about the best for pattern in size 6, if 7 shot 21g was sweet to shoot. I Found the 28g no better and cost more than smaller loads gave a bit of kick. 25g pure gold were a good cartridge too. If i was going for a mooch around with the dog i'd take 19g Hull or at most a 21g every time, can carry more and not notice the weight and at the ranges you would flush stuff they will do all you could want. Only time i wanted a bit more payload was for driven game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 25/04/2018 at 12:38, Esca said: Many thanks. I noticed that the ssb150 powder feature in qiue a few articals. Hi Cervusman thanks you for the offer, it is certanly food for thought. How dificult are the presses to convert from the 12? Dead easy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliveward Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 On 12/04/2018 at 16:27, Esca said: Looking for some advise on reloading for the 28 bore. I have previously reloaded for rifles. I have done a quite a bit of research on the subject and ended thinking, this is going to get complicated, with different case types, wads powder primers etc. So can anyone help point me in the right direction with refrence to a good powder wad combanation. I am looking to load for mainly game/ pidgeon I am looking 26-28gram with plactic wad I will be purchasing a mec 600 jr as soon as my bank balance allows. Cheers in advance Hi Esca, Bit late to the party here, but as others have said John is very knowledgeable on the 28 and has some excellent loads. He'll tell you exactly what you need to put in the cartridges. A good tip for the mec is to replace the crimp starter with the Gaep one from him. It's called the "Start crimp (incisore) tool for new cases". With some adjustment you can then get a crimp that is very near factory quality. You can get it exactly factory quality using a rotating finisher in a drill press. My main load is a 21 gram which can be tailored via shot size for clays #7, pigeons #6.5 or game at sensible distances #6 or #5.5. For that I have just machined the charge bar and inserts on the mec to throw exactly what I want. I have another load at 16 grams of #9 for the kids to use on clays and a 24 gram #5 or #5.5 for more demanding game shooting. I do these on the universal charge bar. It needn't get complicated. I do all these loads with 2 powders, 2 different thickness over powder fibre wads and one size main fibre wad. You don't need massive loads in the 28. We were decoying at the weekend and 24 gram Eley VIP #6 were not killing as well as my loaded 21 gram #6.5 in the same barrel of the same gun. Cheers Clive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 I shoot 28 bore on a regular basis on partridge and pheasant and find a 21 to 24 gm load in 6 is perfect. No need to go above this in a light gun that will only add to recoil. You have good reccomendation for help to which I add Claygame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esca Posted June 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 17 hours ago, cliveward said: Hi Esca, Bit late to the party here, but as others have said John is very knowledgeable on the 28 and has some excellent loads. He'll tell you exactly what you need to put in the cartridges. A good tip for the mec is to replace the crimp starter with the Gaep one from him. It's called the "Start crimp (incisore) tool for new cases". With some adjustment you can then get a crimp that is very near factory quality. You can get it exactly factory quality using a rotating finisher in a drill press. My main load is a 21 gram which can be tailored via shot size for clays #7, pigeons #6.5 or game at sensible distances #6 or #5.5. For that I have just machined the charge bar and inserts on the mec to throw exactly what I want. I have another load at 16 grams of #9 for the kids to use on clays and a 24 gram #5 or #5.5 for more demanding game shooting. I do these on the universal charge bar. It needn't get complicated. I do all these loads with 2 powders, 2 different thickness over powder fibre wads and one size main fibre wad. You don't need massive loads in the 28. We were decoying at the weekend and 24 gram Eley VIP #6 were not killing as well as my loaded 21 gram #6.5 in the same barrel of the same gun. Cheers Clive 16 hours ago, Dave at kelton said: I shoot 28 bore on a regular basis on partridge and pheasant and find a 21 to 24 gm load in 6 is perfect. No need to go above this in a light gun that will only add to recoil. You have good reccomendation for help to which I add Claygame. Cheers guys. I am in the middle of moving house so everything is on hold at the moment, but I will start reloading as soon as the dust has settled. I use the RC21gram, they performs very well, if they are not available I fall back on Gamebore Regal 25gram 5s. I tend to use the 28 for woodland and hide shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 in the lyman 5th shotshell book there is a 28gauge section and there is a little nugget of data a 28gram fibre load with bluedot. my book is in storage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esca Posted June 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 hours ago, cookoff013 said: in the lyman 5th shotshell book there is a 28gauge section and there is a little nugget of data a 28gram fibre load with bluedot. my book is in storage. Blue dot now there is a powder that bring a smile to my face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 https://www.nobelsport.it/en/products-en/powders/powder-shotgun-ammunition Sp2 is now recomended for 28gauge. Now that is cool. There has been data floating about for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esca Posted July 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Never really thought about nobel.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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