London Best Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, matone said: Some more from H&H.Late 50`s I think. Nice. I am lucky enough to have a Royal Brevis gun from 1930. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 Lovely things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernshot Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 12 hours ago, Stephen-H said: Spotted this on a local auction site thought It might be of interest to add to a collection / man cave https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/ashleywaller/catalogue-id-ashley10037/lot-5f6fb017-6439-451d-82f9-abd3001960c3 That is a nice sign! 3 hours ago, matone said: Some more from H&H.Late 50`s I think. Neat that they are advertising their guns on a shell box. That is a nice box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Merkel Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 Here is another style of Holland & Holland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 Any idea of it`s age ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Merkel Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 No not a clue I was hoping someone here would be able to throw some light on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. Merkel said: No not a clue I was hoping someone here would be able to throw some light on it. Have you got a picture of the headstamp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Merkel Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, Farmboy91 said: Have you got a picture of the headstamp? Yes I have with my new found skill of being able to post pictures here we go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. Merkel said: Yes I have with my new found skill of being able to post pictures here we go Cheers I'll have a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Mr. Merkel said: Yes I have with my new found skill of being able to post pictures here we go From what I can find it's circa 1938-39, the actual extract reads 'The Royal was a top quality cartridge having a metal inner sleeve which was crimped closed at the mouth. It also had and out gastight brick red case wall which was printed and lacquered.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Merkel Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 Thank you very much for that very kind of you, I went down the route trying to track the patten number but didnt get anywhere. Thanks again Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 Not a problem 👍, sorry it took so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) A box of BSA `s .I think they`re from the 60`s/70`s .Don`t know who loaded them . Edited June 10, 2020 by matone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarter Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 Not cartridges themselves but something I made over lock down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernshot Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 Here are a few Hellis rounds I pulled out the other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Further to Mr. Merkel’s pictures of his wonderful Royal Ejector cartridges and Farmboy91’s correct dating of 1938/9, I can add that Donald Dallas, in his book ‘H&H The Royal Gunmaker’, states that production started in late 1938 and ceased at the outbreak of war in September 1939. He describes them as ‘very rare and collectable today’. Price in 1938 was 21 shillings per 100, compared to regular Northwood cartridges at 16 shillings and Grand Prix at 14 shillings and 6 pence. There was also an earlier Royal Ejector cartridge produced around the turn of the century that was a normal paper case/rolled turnover. I have some later Royal Jubilee cartridges which I presume date from HM’s Silver Jubilee in 1977. I will try and take some pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Merkel Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Hi London Best Thank you for the reseach I love looking at these old cartridges some bring back good memories. We moved homes a few years ago and a lot of my bits and pieces went into storeage which got flooded out I lost a great many cartridges through water damage not all some were above the water line The BSA shells that Matone pictured I remember buying them as a teenager. Here are a couple of 410 Eley Almac brass cases that were saved from the Webley bolt action not sure of the age but from the 60's I would guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Never come across those before!! A pic of two Gastight and a 3" with an `Imperial` headstamp. Edited June 11, 2020 by matone Add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 I was using a fourten in the sixties (still am!) and I never saw any of those brass shells for sale then. I think they are much, much older than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 The almac is from around 1940-50, got one of those for swaps kicking around somewhere too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Bit of a google seems to say 1930-40`s ! sorry posts clashed !lol Edited June 11, 2020 by matone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 I'm sure we've got it covered between us Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Merkel Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Hi, thanks again for that an old canvas bank bag filled with them came with a Webley & Scott 410 bolt action that I bought in the 60's so I guessed that they might have came from that era. supprised they were earlier. I have seen a few at various auctions but never seen a box for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 80`s H & H loaded by Hull. Used to get these as overuns cheap!Lovely partridge cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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