Guest Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Hi all, I'm after a bit of your wisdom re: shooting multiple guns, or not as the case may be....... Currently I have two shotguns: Miroku MK70 sporter - O/U 30" barrels, multi choke, 2 3/4" chambers. Probably near 8lb. Old english boxlock side by side - 30" barrels, 2 1/2" chambers. My shooting consists of - the odd sporting clay outing (1/2 day at most), some foxing, walked up/rough shooting (this is the vast majority of my sport), some hide shooting pigeons/crows, and some wildfowling (mostly mallard, teal and canada geese) over flooded riverside pools in the winter. Neither can take 3" loads obviously which would be handy on foxes and geese. I didn't shoot particularly well last season, but used both guns, with the SxS being nicer to lug around for a whole day rough shooting, I'd then switch to the O/U later in the day for flighting duck/geese. I don't think that helped me. So my current thinking is to get rid of both (though I have generally shot very well with the miroku in the 10 years I've had it) and get a modern game gun to do everything. A browning has taken my eye - New 525 game one - 30", multichoke (invector plus), 3" chambers, steel shot proof. Basically very similar to my miroku, but more modern and a bit lighter. The other option is to get a semi auto for the ducks, foxes and hide shooting. But I think I'm perhaps better off just shooting one gun for everything, which will be compromised at either extreme maybe, but at least I'll know where it shoots............. Clays I maybe shoot half a dozen times a year, big loads for foxes maybe a box a year, and similar on geese. Mostly we're shooting hedgrows and small woods all winter. Probably have several days in the pigeon hide. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Only going to mention this because, A. you give no idea of budget and, B. because of your limited use of heavy loads and a lot of walking around. You could do worse - a lot worse - than having a look at a Chapuis Super Orion - possibly a used one if it's going to get some stick. 3" chambers, steel proofed, multi choked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 New Browning is about £1500 - I ought to get £600 - £900 for my pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Way to go. It was just the weight that made me post - have a look on gun Search and you'll see why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 if only one gun a good semi auto is the way id go, it will do everything you want and light enough to carry all day. Extra shot for the times you need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 52 minutes ago, wymberley said: Only going to mention this because, A. you give no idea of budget and, B. because of your limited use of heavy loads and a lot of walking around. You could do worse - a lot worse - than having a look at a Chapuis Super Orion - possibly a used one if it's going to get some stick. 3" chambers, steel proofed, multi choked. 34 minutes ago, wymberley said: Way to go. It was just the weight that made me post - have a look on gun Search and you'll see why. Are you selling one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Are you selling one? Not a chance and especially after this weekend after how high it reached up and pulled down some cracking shots at the rooks. Apart from that, I've just grabbed a SbS which once Dennis Stepney has put on a pad to give the extra 1/4" will be identical in spec' and fit other, of course, than the barrel configuration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 A Winchester model 23 sbs would do the job for you ..... As would a lot of others !!! .... buy the one you fall in love with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 hello, i have a mint condition browning 525 hunter light 12 guage 28inch barrel multi choke that i am looking to sell, pm if interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 2 hours ago, wymberley said: Only going to mention this because, A. you give no idea of budget and, B. because of your limited use of heavy loads and a lot of walking around. You could do worse - a lot worse - than having a look at a Chapuis Super Orion - possibly a used one if it's going to get some stick. 3" chambers, steel proofed, multi choked. hello, a Chapuis was one of my guns in the early 1980s not sure which model O/U but very light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 I would go with a pump action. Browning BPS or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, a Chapuis was one of my guns in the early 1980s not sure which model O/U but very light Although as I understand it there is now a move towards driven shooting, the French favour walked up and the weight of their guns reflect this. This is particularly so in the case of the Darne. Give or take an ounce, my Chapuis comes in the same as the AyA XXV boxlock and I suspect (couldn't get it off Dennis Stepney who wouldn't let go of it and kept mumbling about "sleeper", "never been fired" and "that would have been £750 more on my for sale rack" when he saw it) as is the Webley and Scott 700 which I've just bought when I can finally prise it away from him to find out. When you consider that the Chapuis is magnum (superior) proofed and also for steel shot with 3" chambers, not to mention being an OU, that is some going. Keeping the barrels on the short side gives an ideal hide gun eating 28 or 30g as the main diet but also capable of handling something heavy on the odd occasion when necessary. What I liked about it was the non cost options which were legion and such that you will probably be able to get exactly what you want direct from the factory spec' list - I know I did. Impressive. If we had any gunmakers left at the lower/mid range they could learn a thing or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Choose the one you enjoy using the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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