Arron yeates Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I really want to try these now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) To my mind he should develop these as a priority over the .25 and .30 / .35 . As there are more .177 pellets sold in the world than all the other cals combined . Edited December 3, 2019 by Ultrastu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Totally agree. The only rrason tbey havnt is probaby th us market are higher cals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Imagine becoming the new jsb . World domination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaman Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I will keep with my 21g H&N slugs for now , as these work in both FX liners , can’t wait for H&N .25 slugs around the 30gr JSB should be out with there slugs very shortly with softer lead than H&N, should be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Took the words out if my mouth, Villaman JSB will be scrambling to get slugs to market. They won't want to miss out on such a big market. There are quite a few slug manufacturers now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaman Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 JSB have tried a few times with slug design but could not get them to work , apparently they have found the right design now that’s what they said in a email I had back from them a few weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaman Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) We have a slug maker in uk . pro hunter but can’t get them to work in my fx guns , not just me , but others around the country I have spoken too plus about £25-30 per 100 compared to £11 per tin of 200 delivered to your door from Germany for H&N slugs Edited December 3, 2019 by villaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Seen another slug make in the USA but can't remember the sodding name began with A they looked ok same design with hollow point. Suppose they all will be to keep weight down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaman Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Neilson slugs ,vermin knockers , ratsniper all these are the main slug makers in the states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) Matt Dubber has just put a video up of him shooting the new FX Hybrid slugs. Some good info from the field shooting them. 25 m zero and oy 2.3 mils holdover at 100 m he is shooting them at 980 FPS 68.whiskey also have a video of them shooting the Hybrid slugs to good effect. Don't need perfect shot placement with the expansion, it rips them apart. Edited December 4, 2019 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 If you look on airgun 101 All the best vids appear here with more content about 3 days before utube . Its a dedicated airgun shooting channel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) I've been on airgun 101 Giles WebTV channel a few times after he launched it. Only thing is I watch most videos on YouTube app on my smart TV. Now figured out how to web channels/websites in the web browser on it. Ultrastu if you go on it you could have told us about all the FX slug videos 😁 Edited December 4, 2019 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 I thought id mentioned it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron yeates Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Roll on the 10 grain .177 thats all im saying lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Found the other slug manufacturer I mentioned earlier, avs he's a one man band selling on eBay. Stu not having a dig mate, was to tongue in cheek. Soon as the .22 become available I'll try some to see what speed and accuracy or lack of. .177 should be better suited to our guns and power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaman Posted December 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Ratworks are starting to sell neilson slugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Looking forward to these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 hello, looking at those i will stick with the 22 AA fields in my vermy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) I would also, these slugs are .25 cal so a bit tight in a .22 barrel .🙄 Edited January 7, 2020 by Ultrastu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Don't get it - why would the slug expand more than a conventional pellet - looking at the sectional pic why would it not fold inwards? + Being heavier at the back (I presume) then a larger wound would only be achieved by the projectile "tumbling" - not likely in sub 12 and debatable at all in .177 where the diameter and OAL are similar? I smell yet more fairy dust and powdered Unicorn horn. Until I see absolute proof I'm sticking with JSB/AA - few complaints from vermin in the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Bruno they mushroom.out and fold back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 The weight at the back continues to drive forward ,the rear of the pellet on impact and causes the mushroom effect . The side walls cant fold inwards only out wards (basic physics .think of the roof of the pantheon in Rome ) A Diablo pellet doesnt expand in the same way .because all the lead of the head is connected in the centre and the skirt has little mass to force the head apart from the rear . Basically these hollow slugs are almost completely different to a standard pellet as you can get .and hence perform in a totally different way Traditionally the main issue with slugs from an airgun has been that they need high velocities for them to be spin stabilised(limited by the expansion rate of compressed air - speed of sound ). And fast twist rates . And also the amount of friction caused in the barrel by a slug reducing velocity further . These hybrids have gone a long way to sloving some of these issues .combine that with the birth of bull pups (long barrels ) smooth barrels and efficent regs and air delivery and the slug starts to work (velocity and hence accuracy follows ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Have I missed something. Super domes kill. Dead is dead. Who needs anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Superdomes dont kill at 100 yds . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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