pavman Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I understand Pigeon shooting has been restricted to one month a year (the month they migrate) due to the success of antis, anyone have any news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted August 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Its easy to see how the anti gets what they want, this post has a potentially devastating knock on effect (if its correct ) TO YOUR shooting yet no one has a view on it what we gonna do stick our heads in the sand and hope the European rules done effect us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Its easy to see how the anti gets what they want, this post has a potentially devastating knock on effect (if its correct ) TO YOUR shooting yet no one has a view on it what we gonna do stick our heads in the sand and hope the European rules done effect us? Where is this written or explained, I cannot find anyhting on google? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Can't find anything either, need information on which to make a decision & base my opinons on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted August 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 A gun from Denmark contacted a friend yesterday asking for advise on shooting in the UK as he was coming over on hols, he said they have made the ban in Scandinavia as a whole to inc his home in Denmark. Said they can only shoot woodie one month a year now! Friend then contacted me to see if I had any news and thought I would post to see what we could flush out as he is not a member of any forums, we have some Dutch friends on PW wonder what they know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I didn't respond earlier, as I have spent some time looking for any reference to this and I can't. I would have thought it would have received some publicity in the UK sporting press, as if one member of the European Union has done this, there could be a knock on effect. Perhaps Mr Puddifoot and Deako have more influence than we thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Mr Puddifoot and Deako have more influence than we thought or they have been privileged to some info that we all should have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I have hammered Google and all the other usual suspect search engines. Nada. Pavman, no need to block Le Chunnel up just yet. Nah ****** it, seal it, get the cannons pointing East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Mr Puddifoot and Deako have more influence than we thought or they have been privileged to some info that we all should have. No, I just think they want a close season for woodpigeon, to protect the longevity of their businesses, just in case numbers are falling. What is in their interests , I don't believe is in our interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Cranberry, Thousands of pigeons up here mate. Keep an eye on the next edition of Sporting Shooter...may just see a couple of PW members smash their previous personal best bags this coming Sunday, video clips to be posted on the SS website! And to the two boys lined up as shooters...no pressure eh lads?...just your mugs in the magazine and either a pile of empty carts or a pile of pigeon!! :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Cranberry, Thousands of pigeons up here mate. Keep an eye on the next edition of Sporting Shooter...may just see a couple of PW members smash their previous personal best bags this coming Sunday, video clips to be posted on the SS website! And to the two boys lined up as shooters...no pressure eh lads?...just your mugs in the magazine and either a pile of empty carts or a pile of pigeon!! :look: thats why lancs is all giddy is it. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 mark, I won't embarass the poor fella's...suffice to say, they were both up at Kelbrook today battering the clays in the hope of connecting with some real birds at the weekend!. :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Cranberry, Thousands of pigeons up here mate. Keep an eye on the next edition of Sporting Shooter...may just see a couple of PW members smash their previous personal best bags this coming Sunday, video clips to be posted on the SS website! And to the two boys lined up as shooters...no pressure eh lads?...just your mugs in the magazine and either a pile of empty carts or a pile of pigeon!! :look: So you are no longer pushing for a woodpigeon close season then, Deako ? Thats good to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Never been pushing for a close deason Brian, just a personal opinion that the birds would really benefit from a 3 month break during peak breeding season. BUT, thats all it is...my personal opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Lad Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 thats why lancs is all giddy is it. I would like to state that the reason for Giddyness is down to my medication. As for practicing...................I wasnt........................I was teaching................and getting told off for putting 3 shots through the semi..........next time one shall ask for a refund on any clays that I miss instead. And Mr Deako.......................I will be having words with you on saturday................Now get in the back and get me some shells.... As for a ban on the pigeons............I think everything suffers the ill effects of a no close season.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 As for a ban on the pigeons............I think everything suffers the ill effects of a no close season.... Tell that to the farmers who are inundated with bunnies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Never been pushing for a close deason Brian, just a personal opinion that the birds would really benefit from a 3 month break during peak breeding season. BUT, thats all it is...my personal opinion. Point is WHEN is the peak I have seen birds nesting in march and birds are still nesting NOW? anyway in my area as I have stated in a previous post breeding has it seems been very successfull a lot of shot birds being young and in very good condition. Also its worth noting that over last winter it almost seemed a close season for the pigeon shooter very poor sport to the decoys,birds stuffing with mast, hawthorn ivy berries, and acorn right through, I had only a handfull of days when birds came in to crops, in fact its only picked up from july and the numbers of birds are far better than previous years? and judging by the amount of acorn etc on the trees now, this winter is going to be no better, so WHEN do we shoot ? ie only when birds are not on crops lets say december!, no laid crop protection etc, now as you sell decoy equipment does that not bring thoughts of foot and shoot? cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Lad Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 As for a ban on the pigeons............I think everything suffers the ill effects of a no close season.... Tell that to the farmers who are inundated with bunnies Let you have that one H.....................Close season will mostly be on a thursday.................. :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 I had only a handfull of days when birds came in to crops, in fact its only picked up from july KW, As you will be aware, you can only shoot pigeons when they are causing damage to crops, therefore, any other time, you are commiting an offence if you shoot them. Woodpigeons CANNOT be shot for sport!, as I'm sure David from BASC will confirm. By complaining that you can't get to shoot pigeons because they are not attacking crops is playing right into the hands of the anti's and the birdy boys. Please don't shoot pigeons outside the terms of the open licence or we WILL get an enforced close season, which for the last time, I DO NOT WANT, I would just like to see people ease off the birds during April, May and June, but the choice to do that is down to the individual. cheers JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Deako stop twisting words, my reference to the poor days was whilst shooting over crops, and yes I referd to poor sport whats wrong with that? it does not infer that I am shooting purely for sport, merely that the sport was poor ie a terminology!whilst shooting pigeon ?but then again you knew that did you not? As said winter shooting was poor for the decoyer last year and looking at the trees now its going to be just as bad this winter, now that did not stop the birds having the odd fly by ie hit a field hard and fast day decimating the odd field then off to the berries again, so if you dont hit them when they will come to the decoys when do you hit them, its all crop protection as, as is known the only effective method of pigeon control is shooting, and I would ask you this, have you shot over stubbles and if so are you not a hypocrite?or is that justified "crop protection" and NOT sport? cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Twisting words?...Oh dear, just quoting yours mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 nah like I said YOUR twisting you see it your way, I will see it mine ok? oh and go on DO you shoot stubbles? cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning GTS Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I had only a handfull of days when birds came in to crops, in fact its only picked up from july KW, As you will be aware, you can only shoot pigeons when they are causing damage to crops, therefore, any other time, you are commiting an offence if you shoot them. Woodpigeons CANNOT be shot for sport!, as I'm sure David from BASC will confirm. By complaining that you can't get to shoot pigeons because they are not attacking crops is playing right into the hands of the anti's and the birdy boys. Please don't shoot pigeons outside the terms of the open licence or we WILL get an enforced close season, which for the last time, I DO NOT WANT, I would just like to see people ease off the birds during April, May and June, but the choice to do that is down to the individual. cheers JD Not only damaging crops Permits authorised persons to kill or take certain birds, or to take, damage or destroy their nests; or to take or destroy their eggs, for the purposes of: (i) preventing the spread of disease; and (ii) preventing serious damage to livestock, foodstuffs for livestock, crops, vegetables, fruit, growing timber, fisheries or inland waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 If you are saying you only shoot pigeons to protect crop, but then also saying you think you should lay off the birds at certain times to allow them to multiply then I really don't understand where you are coming from. Surely that is a bit of a contradiction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Air-Pro® Flapping Pigeon Decoys-Pair FANTASTIC FOR SHOOTING OVER LAID BARLEY/WHEAT/STUBBLES Thats right, we are so confident that the fully flocked Air-Pro will make such a dramatic difference to your days sport, Hundreds sold with no complaints, this magnet really is so good that we know we can transform your sport deako no need to bother answering if you shot or condoned shooting over stubble? ( hmmn janus comes to mind) I found the answer in one of your adds,and you call it a "sport" quite a feew times at that? so can I ask how you condone this as by your terms and pop at me its NOT crop protection? ( it is by mine) and I get some SPORT out of it? its a term mate, a term, so dont bleat on about the general license etc,as I am sure David from basc will put you right! foot shoot or foot mouth? cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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