figgy Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) It's stamped Crown made in England number1. The little chuck tool holder on the front has a square drive with two grub screws to hold the likes of what I think would be a tap or reamer but not 100% sure. It has gears and appears to drive 1:1 in forward when the shaft is pushed in and in reverse when shaft pulled out. In the middle of being in or out is neutral. It's what makes me think lathe or mill driven tapping device. Edited March 17, 2020 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 hello, i would think for tapping holes in steel with a free standing drill, in the 1970s we had belt driven drills with that type of collett shaft once you tapped hole it automatic reversed, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 It's certainly before my time to use but have seen much bigger ones in workshops many years ago. Can't find anything out about it or the company. Came with a box of bits with a myford lathe I bought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) hello, google Crown Works Chelmsford Ironfounders Essex? London New Road, it says the 1920s 1930s, would you say that old ? from whos who in engineering 1922 Edited March 17, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 Cheers, it could well be the lathe I bought was off a 90 year old former Lucas brakes engineer. Still working until he was 88. Some reamers in a wooden box I got were his dad's, that makes them very old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, figgy said: Cheers, it could well be the lathe I bought was off a 90 year old former Lucas brakes engineer. Still working until he was 88. Some reamers in a wooden box I got were his dad's, that makes them very old. hello, there was a ship builder/repairs in Sunderland called Crown, John and Sons Ltd from the 1922 whos who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, there was a ship builder/repairs in Sunderland called Crown, John and Sons Ltd from the 1922 whos who my guess would be an automatic tapping tool fitted in an early engineers drill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 The top shaft on the first picture looks like Morse taper.Which would perhaps indeed indicate it goes in a drill press.But what would stop the whole tool rotating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 Looks more like a tailstock tap holder to me, opposed to a mill or drill press. 31 minutes ago, wisdom said: But what would stop the whole tool rotating. Friction baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) Well after many hours searching online, it's a automatic reverse tapping tool. Runs in drill press mills and lathes. Oldypigeonpopper nailed it. Apparently you can adjust the clutch so not to break the taps. To stop it turning there is one long bar handle fitted and threads for another. Various makes online. Still can't find anything or instructions for this one. I think it being number 1 it's got mt1 shaft with a mt2 on top to fit the myford ml7. Edited March 17, 2020 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 Always an education on this forum, long may it continue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 ....... and if you don't need it I'll pay the postage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 18 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: my guess would be an automatic tapping tool fitted in an early engineers drill hello, being as you live up North figgy i would suggest it came from the ship builders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 I bought the lathe from Sutton Coldfield, got my jabs and passport stamped. Suppose it could have came from anywhere. As for ship yards there were loads of them around here. The Tyne the Wear and the Tees along with William Grey's of Hartlepool. Worked in a few of them over the years sadly gone now. 21 hours ago, Walker570 said: ....... and if you don't need it I'll pay the postage Walker you can buy many types online, some cheap some expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) Looks a sueful piece of kit, thanks for the heads up I will have a look. I'll have you know Sutton Coldfield is a nice clean town....well it was in 1964 when I left it Edited March 18, 2020 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) I was very pleasantly surprised by how nice it was upper Clifton road area. Some very nice and big 1930's houses by looks of them. Walker have a look at tapmatic and vertex, both seem widely available at different price points. Edited March 19, 2020 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Thanks. Yes, many moons since I strolled up Clifton Road looking all officious in my new uniform. Sutton Coldfield was my first posting in 1962. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 We have a tapping arm in the workshop, it is fantastic, from tiny to big it just works, yet to see it snap a tap great bit of kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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