captainhastings Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 I was out yesterday and it seemed fine. It was a wet old day. But today when I close the gun the top lever did not spring back to lock the gun and i had to do it manually. It goes a little bit but not umph there. Only really started using the gun recently. After ejecting I do notice there is a quite a bit if resistance to close the gun. No idea if that is normal or not. Is it gunsmith time 😞 Shooting really well with it as well Winchester pigeon grade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 new top spring............easy enough to have one made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 As above new top lever spring and yes can be a bit stiff closing as you are compressing the ejector springs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Hello, how long since you last used the Winchester ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) yesterday but prior to that is has been a few months. It goes back and forward fine if I manually use the lever. Got wet yesterday but I wiped it all down when i got home Also is i safe to use like that. I do notice it won't fire unless I have closed it right up Edited July 5, 2020 by captainhastings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 If it happened after getting wet and hasn't been used in a while i would get the stock off and have a look inside to see if its gunged up with old grease and water. If nothing is obvious then a trip to the gunsmith is in order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Rob85 said: If it happened after getting wet and hasn't been used in a while i would get the stock off and have a look inside to see if its gunged up with old grease and water. If nothing is obvious then a trip to the gunsmith is in order not too sure if i am up to that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Ok I bit the bullet and took the stock off 3 bits fell out a pointed pin. Fire pin I take it. Little block with a dimple in it. A spring I can see the top lever moving but no sign of a broken spring, Also how to get it back together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 ah that spring might be the top lever spring. Just got figure where the bits go and the fact they fell out is that normal or would be why it wasnt working ah the pointy rod is the top lever splunger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Hello, the screw may of just worked loose, or broken off in the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 ah the little block with a screw in one side is the top lever locking plate 3 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, the screw may of just worked loose, or broken off in the thread I think your right there is a short bit of screw sticking out the block. Balls thats me out. Gun smith it is then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, captainhastings said: ah the little block with a screw in one side is the top lever locking plate I think your right there is a short bit of screw sticking out the block. Balls thats me out. Gun smith it is then Hello, the top lever spring system takes a lot of use over many years and can get metal fatigue, a gunsmith should have a new screw stud, maybe think of a service if you going to keep your Winchester as the smith can do both and should last many more years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, the top lever spring system takes a lot of use over many years and can get metal fatigue, a gunsmith should have a new screw stud, maybe think of a service if you going to keep your Winchester as the smith can do both and should last many more years I will do thank you. When you say a service. What exactly does that involve. Is it just cleaning? I really enjoy the gun and hit far more with it than my hatsan semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, captainhastings said: I will do thank you. When you say a service. What exactly does that involve. Is it just cleaning? I really enjoy the gun and hit far more with it than my hatsan semi. Hello, there's a lot more work in a service than just a general clean, with that broken screw stud I would consider a service as there maybe other parts needed, gunman on here could advise better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, there's a lot more work in a service than just a general clean, with that broken screw stud I would consider a service as there maybe other parts needed, gunman on here could advise better Thank you. Have been very helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, captainhastings said: Thank you. Have been very helpful Hello, no problem, do you have a gunsmith near ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Yes with in forty minutes any way. Never used one before. A sense a big bill coming lol. I will get a service as it will be worth it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 35 minutes ago, captainhastings said: Yes with in forty minutes any way. Never used one before. A sense a big bill coming lol. I will get a service as it will be worth it though Hello, do they have a cleaning/ or service costing on the web site, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 34 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, do they have a cleaning/ or service costing on the web site, No but apparently they have 2 gunsmiths in house. I will give them a bell tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 5 hours ago, captainhastings said: Ok I bit the bullet and took the stock off 3 bits fell out a pointed pin. Fire pin I take it. Little block with a dimple in it. A spring I can see the top lever moving but no sign of a broken spring, Also how to get it back together Shame its turned out to be broken parts, but hopefully not a huge bill for repairs. I suggested it could have been gummed up as my friend inherited his grandfather's BSA single trigger side by side that I used to use when I was out at their farm and after his grandfather passed away he took it it for old time sake and it wouldn't shoot the 2nd barrel and the top lever was being a bit funny. He left it in to get fixed and turned out the inside was absolutely minging and it pretty much seized up. From a glance I can see your winchester is very well looked after and a credit to you sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) Edited July 6, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted July 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Rob85 said: Shame its turned out to be broken parts, but hopefully not a huge bill for repairs. I suggested it could have been gummed up as my friend inherited his grandfather's BSA single trigger side by side that I used to use when I was out at their farm and after his grandfather passed away he took it it for old time sake and it wouldn't shoot the 2nd barrel and the top lever was being a bit funny. He left it in to get fixed and turned out the inside was absolutely minging and it pretty much seized up. From a glance I can see your winchester is very well looked after and a credit to you sir! Thanks Rob. All I do is dry it and wipe down really with smear of oil 6 hours ago, enfieldspares said: Thank you for that I was quite interested how its was seated. Think I see now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 What is the exploded drawing of ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, Gunman said: What is the exploded drawing of ? If it's an exploded drawing from the same gun it looks to me like one of the cocking rods (cocking dogs?) Has broken along with the spring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted July 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 No it is definitely the top lever locking plate screw that has sheared. The spring is fine and I assembled with out it and every thing functions as it should. £80 for a service plus parts if needed so will get it booked in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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