30-6 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 I was watching a you tube clip with a shooter using a 308 rifle. I noticed how much recoil was involved. So, out of interest, what sort of powder charge would be in a standard load of a 30g shotgun cartridge and in a 308 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, 30-6 said: I was watching a you tube clip with a shooter using a 308 rifle. I noticed how much recoil was involved. So, out of interest, what sort of powder charge would be in a standard load of a 30g shotgun cartridge and in a 308 ? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted August 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 What does " yes " mean ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted August 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 I perhaps should have been more clear. What I am asking is a comparison between a 308 rifle load and a 30 gram shotgun load regarding recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 .308 takes between 44 and 48 grains depending on which powder used and what bullet weight. Most powders are about 46 grains for a 150 grain bullet. Sorry, can’t help much with 12 bore loadings as I don’t reload for shotguns. As a wild guess! I would say maybe 22 grains of a much faster burning powder for a 12 bore shotgun, but I admit I don’t really know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 The 308 would vary considerably between shooting a 110gr bullet and a 180 grain bullet. Impossible to make a sensible comparison really as the gun would also come into play, weight and style of gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardigun Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Hi, I don't have the figures to hand, but my recollection is that they both have very similar recoils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 12 hours ago, London Best said: .308 takes between 44 and 48 grains depending on which powder used and what bullet weight. Most powders are about 46 grains for a 150 grain bullet. Sorry, can’t help much with 12 bore loadings as I don’t reload for shotguns. As a wild guess! I would say maybe 22 grains of a much faster burning powder for a 12 bore shotgun, but I admit I don’t really know. what this man says. 12ga 36g load 24 grain of "a specific" powder should do 1900ftlbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardigun Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 I have dug out some figures for comparison; .308 rifle shooting a 150 gn bullet @2800 fps in a rifle weighing 7 1/2 lbs, gives 15.8 ft/lbs recoil 12 bore shotgun shooting 28 gm load @ 1180 fps in a gun weighing 7 1/2 lbs gives 17.3 ft/lbs recoil. There are lots of variables which will make a difference. Different bullet weight, and shot loads. Different velocities. Different weights of gun and rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 When I seen the recoil of the 308 it seemed quite harsh. When I use a 12g shotgun I use as low a load as I can get away with, I have 25g up to 30g. I can automatically bang bang 2 barrels with 30g or 28g load, but I wouldn't fancy it with a 308. But shooting a moving gun as opposed to a static one is easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 11 hours ago, cardigun said: I have dug out some figures for comparison; .308 rifle shooting a 150 gn bullet @2800 fps in a rifle weighing 7 1/2 lbs, gives 15.8 ft/lbs recoil 12 bore shotgun shooting 28 gm load @ 1180 fps in a gun weighing 7 1/2 lbs gives 17.3 ft/lbs recoil. There are lots of variables which will make a difference. Different bullet weight, and shot loads. Different velocities. Different weights of gun and rifle. And 1 1\8 does 23ftlbs recoil and 1 1\4 32ftlbs recoil, only 1 5\8 is 52ftlbs, whilst 410 11\16 is only 10.5ftlbs. For comparison 223 in 55gr only has 5.1ftlbs recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafod Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) Heavier the bullet the greater the recoil now fire a 577/450 martini henry full power loc milltary load Gordon Bennett fire 50 of those in a session that will teach you a thing or two about recoil but I love that smell kboom lol Edited August 24, 2020 by hafod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 8 hours ago, hafod said: Heavier the bullet the greater the recoil now fire a 577/450 martini henry full power loc milltary load Gordon Bennett fire 50 of those in a session that will teach you a thing or two about recoil but I love that smell kboom lol do people use recoil pads ? or recoil protection underneath the jacket? i thought about velcro-ing a pad underneath my vest, but i normally have a taped pad. i`m never firing 66 gram loads again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafod Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 Most people wear a pad under their jacket but a lot shooters shoot full power loads personally i never load that hot a load now getting knocked about like that is no fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 16 hours ago, hafod said: Heavier the bullet the greater the recoil now fire a 577/450 martini henry full power loc milltary load Gordon Bennett fire 50 of those in a session that will teach you a thing or two about recoil but I love that smell kboom lol Surely similar to firing 31g (450 grains) 12 bore OU at same velocity (1350ft/sec), punishing but doable as both guns weigh about the same (9lb)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafod Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) Your Quite right stout recoil in the rifle but murder to use in the carbine i.d say in the carbines full power load cartridges about the same recoil as a 4 bore fowler I.d say on the mk 1 martini henry there's a knack to firing it on the rear of the receiver there's an oval checkered detent you place your thumb there when you fire if you dont and wrap your thumb around the wrist of the stock as you do with any other gun well let's just say with full power 100 + grain loads of black powder the recoil brings your thumb into painfull contact with your nose vey often making it bleed a great way to bring the resident club know it all down to earth and we all know one on the firing line dont we lol Edited August 26, 2020 by hafod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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