More idiot dog owners who should know better

[sam triple]

Just took my boy out for his lunch time stroll along a reasonable width path way 3 blokes approached so I kept the dog close to me they pasted without any problem, however following behind was a woman and a thick cut bloke in their 50’s the bloke had one dog on a lead the woman however was bouncing a ball for a Scotty dog I glanced at the bloke and could see him getting annoyed with her and the dog , next thing this dog had launched itself at my boy snapping and snarling at him , I kicked a foot out at it and the woman the decided to grab hold of it . Far from being impressed I told them exactly what I thought and what would happen to their dog if it happened again , he asked me to repeat what I said which I duly did , at that point he got all aggy and his woman was then  trying to restrain him , I kept walking got around the corner the dog stopped for a pee at which point the 3 blokes who I past first appeared , naturally i thought they were all together and I was in for a kicking they stopped, I reached into my pocket for a little something I keep on me , and they said that bloke was an absolute tool and I was well within my rights , I breathed a large sigh of relief and carried on my way , some people ! 

[WalkedUp]

Shame that ruined your walk with your son. Lots of bad dogs about. Don’t keep something in your pocket, even if it goes no where could get you in trouble. A stout walking stick deals with stray dogs. 

[Manish]

On 14/03/2021 at 13:17, sam triple said:

 I reached into my pocket for a little something I keep on me 

I wonder what the Police would say on a stop and search if they found a 16inch dildo in a poachers pocket??? would it be classed as a weapon?  (I dont have or carry one BTW)

But yes there seems to be an increase in shocking dog owners. I feel its due to the lockdown dog culture. People went out got dogs and didnt socialise them as they couldnt. They also didnt train them very well so the dog has no respect for them or other humans. Its a shame as its not the poor dogs fault. 

[Lloyd90]

9 minutes ago, Manish said:

I wonder what the Police would say on a stop and search if they found a 16inch dildo in a poachers pocket??? would it be classed as a weapon?  (I dont have or carry one BTW)

But yes there seems to be an increase in shocking dog owners. I feel its due to the lockdown dog culture. People went out got dogs and didnt socialise them as they couldnt. They also didnt train them very well so the dog has no respect for them or other humans. Its a shame as its not the poor dogs fault. 

My mates mrs is a dog groomer she said the lock down pups coming in are totally wild and keep biting them. 
 

I was under the impression Sam was reaching for his Derringer and was going to dispatch 2 of them so he had better odds 1:1 👀🤣

[Manish]

1 minute ago, Lloyd90 said:

My mates mrs is a dog groomer she said the lock down pups coming in are totally wild and keep biting them. 
 

I was under the impression Sam was reaching for his Derringer and was going to dispatch 2 of them so he had better odds 1:1 👀🤣

Im a heating engineer and see them when they are at home. Bloody wild they are indeed.

[al4x]

To be slightly controversial I’m struggling to see how a scotty was that intimidating to you.  It’s got little dog syndrome and had you stood your ground and said hello to it odds are things would have changed quickly for the better. 
Weirdly my two just stand and look at little dogs with attitude and are far better than with little ones that run scared.  We may be a different area but I usually find a quick chat with the owner lets the dogs get used to each other and it doesn’t happen the next time you meet them 

[WalkedUp]

20 minutes ago, al4x said:

 

To be slightly controversial I’m struggling to see how a scotty was that intimidating to you.  It’s got little dog syndrome

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019863/amp/Icy-Thomas-Day-2-eyelid-bitten-savage-dog-attack.html

Even a small dog can inflict life changing facial injuries to a small child. 

Small dog syndrome is when any dog snaps, growls or barks at my children. Every dog is smaller than me and they all end up stomped under my boot.

Zero tolerance is the only way. If you have a dog that’s badly behaved and take it into a public place you need to accept that each walk may be its last. 

[Manish]

26 minutes ago, WalkedUp said:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019863/amp/Icy-Thomas-Day-2-eyelid-bitten-savage-dog-attack.html

Even a small dog can inflict life changing facial injuries to a small child. 

Small dog syndrome is when any dog snaps, growls or barks at my children. Every dog is smaller than me and they all end up stomped under my boot.

Zero tolerance is the only way. If you have a dog that’s badly behaved and take it into a public place you need to accept that each walk may be its last. 

That's a little harsh. My Russell is a rural dog and a rescue at that. Yes she has a bit of an attitude problem but on the whole she's not a bad dog. Very friendly with people and has helped many of my relatives with their fear of dogs (I don't know why many Asian people are scared of dogs). 

On the odd occasion she might lunge barking and snarling at a dog. Bit that's where a lead is very handy. A quick chat with the owner and she seems to relax. Saying that if the Mrs has her she keeps barking. Bit there is no need for rude behavior from the humans side. 

Tbh if a person stamped a dog to death they need to have an indepth  psychological assessment. It would also highlight anger issues which more than likely will cost that person their FAC/SGC. 

When I had two terriers there was an incident with a black lab that ran over and picked up one of the terriers and starter to frag it about. A jab in the ribs and stern talking to and he was released. The thing that ****** me off was the owner of the lab didn't give a ****. 

More fool her! Her horses are known for escaping and they are only down the road. Do I ever round them up or ring her to tell her they are out? Nope! As a former Household Cavalryman it's something that is easy for me but won't ever help her.

 

The point I'm trying to make is it's almost always the owners fault not the dog. My terrier atm was a rescue and it's been hard work to get her to not see every dog as a threat but we are getting there.

Edited March 17, 2021 by Manish

[WalkedUp]

26 minutes ago, Manish said:

The point I'm trying to make is it's almost always the owners fault not the dog.

Completely agree. No dog is born badly behaved. You choose to rehome a dog you are choosing to take responsibility for all of its issues. The “he’s a rescue dog” plea as it’s attacking gives very little reassurance trust me. It seems the main reason people rehome dogs is to avoid taking any responsibility for its behaviour. 

A dog that worries livestock will be shot. A dog that attacks my children will be killed. I’d be happy to have that conversation with any police officer. I’d also be happy to lose my FAC and SGC to prevent my children being harmed, no question. 

[WalkedUp]

 

[Manish]

1 hour ago, WalkedUp said:

Completely agree. No dog is born badly behaved. You choose to rehome a dog you are choosing to take responsibility for all of its issues. The “he’s a rescue dog” plea as it’s attacking gives very little reassurance trust me. It seems the main reason people rehome dogs is to avoid taking any responsibility for its behaviour. 

A dog that worries livestock will be shot. A dog that attacks my children will be killed. I’d be happy to have that conversation with any police officer. I’d also be happy to lose my FAC and SGC to prevent my children being harmed, no question. 

Fair enough. And I totally get that. Normally a crack in ribs or side of the head is all it take for a dog to let go. 

Livestock is another thing all together. I agree dogs should be shot it they are chasing livestock around. 

[WalkedUp]

9 hours ago, Manish said:

Fair enough. And I totally get that. Normally a crack in ribs or side of the head is all it take for a dog to let go. 

Livestock is another thing all together. I agree dogs should be shot it they are chasing livestock around. 

Agree, so far I’ve found that just letting the dog / owner know I have seriously bad intentions for the dog’s ongoing health and well being if it proceeds has worked well. Like any threat or show of force as a deterrent, you can only start a process if you are prepared to finish.

[12gauge82]

12 hours ago, WalkedUp said:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019863/amp/Icy-Thomas-Day-2-eyelid-bitten-savage-dog-attack.html

Even a small dog can inflict life changing facial injuries to a small child. 

Small dog syndrome is when any dog snaps, growls or barks at my children. Every dog is smaller than me and they all end up stomped under my boot.

Zero tolerance is the only way. If you have a dog that’s badly behaved and take it into a public place you need to accept that each walk may be its last. 

We've had this one before, in my opinion your not fit to be a parent much less a dog owner with your attitude,which could one day land you in a lot more trouble than you can handle, there's always someone bigger and harder and stamping on someones dog until it dies is rather unlikely to endear you to someone, particularly a violent scumbag with a blade in their pocket which is the type of person who is likely to own an aggressive dog. 

[Manish]

13 minutes ago, WalkedUp said:

Agree, so far I’ve found that just letting the dog / owner know I have seriously bad intentions for the dog’s ongoing health and well being if it proceeds has worked well. Like any threat or show of force as a deterrent, you can only start a process if you are prepared to finish.

Its the 3 D's. Deescalate, Disarm and failing the first two Disable 

[WalkedUp]

16 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

the type of person who is likely to own an aggressive dog. 

I generally find the most aggressive dogs in the public places have been owned by middle class twits who are oblivious to the danger they put others in by not training or socialising their dog(s). But that may be selective determinism due to the places I go to so I doubt is a statistically valid sample.

Some people on here get their knickers in a twist over the killing of dogs and horses. But not cattle, pigs, foxes, rats or pigeons. If a person attacked my child and I assaulted them to defend my child I would be a hero, the same with a dog and suddenly I’m a war criminal. I find that sort of speciesist sentimentality utterly bizarre. 

We have pet rabbits, yet I kill rabbits. Generations ago people grew up eating the excess of their pet rabbits. 

One pet in each picture:

[12gauge82]

6 minutes ago, WalkedUp said:

I generally find the most aggressive dogs in the public places have been owned by middle class twits who are oblivious to the danger they put others in by not training or socialising their dog(s). But that may be selective determinism due to the places I go to so I doubt is a statistically valid sample.

Some people on here get their knickers in a twist over the killing of dogs and horses. But not cattle, pigs, foxes, rats or pigeons. If a person attacked my child and I assaulted them to defend my child I would be a hero, the same with a dog and suddenly I’m a war criminal. I find that sort of speciesist sentimentality utterly bizarre. 

We have pet rabbits, yet I kill rabbits. Generations ago people grew up eating the excess of their pet rabbits. 

It's not defending a child I have a problem with, I would kill any dog I had to in the defence of another, its your ridiculous attitude, stomping on a dog that simply barks at your child is way over the top, if it was under close control and unable to get to you or your child your actions would be illegal and completely out of order.

And what sort of lesson would that be to teach to a child, stamping a small, scared defenceless dog to death, that was no threat to you? 

Edited March 17, 2021 by 12gauge82

[WalkedUp]

3 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

f it was under close control and unable to get to you or your child your actions would be illegal

If it was under close control I wouldn’t be batting an eyelid at it. I’m talking about dogs that are running at my children or others barking, snapping, snarling. I don’t wait to see what injury occurs to take action. 

Edited March 17, 2021 by WalkedUp

[12gauge82]

12 hours ago, WalkedUp said:

 

Small dog syndrome is when any dog snaps, growls or barks at my children. Every dog is smaller than me and they all end up stomped under my boot.

Zero tolerance is the only way. If you have a dog that’s badly behaved and take it into a public place you need to accept that each walk may be its last. 

Well it didn't come across like that. 

[WalkedUp]

11 hours ago, WalkedUp said:

 

Watch this video to see how much time you have to make a decision and react when confronted with an aggressive dog. 

[12gauge82]

And with training gems like this (your direct quote from topic training a 2 year old) 

I think it says a lot about you and your view of dogs. 

 

My wife’s grandfather was President of the Royal Rock Beagles before Labour ended it all. The only training they used to do was shoot the slowest and fastest dog in the pack after each outing.

They are not bred to be biddable but headstrong and follow their nose.

1 minute ago, WalkedUp said:

Watch this video to see how much time you have to make a decision and react when confronted with an aggressive dog. 

I really don't need to. 

Edited March 17, 2021 by 12gauge82

[WalkedUp]

On 14/03/2021 at 13:17, sam triple said:

a Scotty dog I glanced at the bloke and could see him getting annoyed with her and the dog , next thing this dog had launched itself at my boy snapping and snarling at him , I kicked a foot out at it and the woman the decided to grab hold of it . 

This is the context that the replies in the thread needs to be read against 👍

2 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

I think it says a lot about you and your view of dogs

No, it says a lot about the view of a long dead man about long dead dogs in the context of a sadly long dead sport. 

3 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

I really don't need to. 

It will be educational for you, the speed it mauls that young girl at and the ferocity and stamina that the dog hangs onto her flesh with is sickening. In the end the dog was being stabbed and it still didn’t let go. 

Edited March 17, 2021 by WalkedUp

[12gauge82]

3 minutes ago, WalkedUp said:

  👍

No, it says a lot about the view of a long dead man about long dead dogs in the context of a sadly long dead sport. 

Interesting that you didn't disagree with that statement, yet you seem to be chopping at the bit to stamp a dog to death, regardless if it's a chiwawa that poses virtually no threat to you. 

[12gauge82]

8 minutes ago, WalkedUp said:

 

It will be educational for you, the speed it mauls that young girl at and the ferocity and stamina that the dog hangs onto her flesh with is sickening. In the end the dog was being stabbed and it still didn’t let go. 

It really won't be, Im well aware of what an aggressive dog can do, you however are not. 

[WalkedUp]

4 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

Interesting that you didn't disagree with that statement, yet you seem to be chopping at the bit to stamp a dog to death, regardless if it's a chiwawa that poses virtually no threat to you. 

Chihuahuas can still bite. If my children were being attacked by a chihuahua sized dog it would probably be booted rather than stomped to avoid missing such a small and quick animal. I don’t know if you’ve ever been bitten by a grey squirrel (much smaller than any dog) but trust me it is a nasty injury. A bite from any dog of any size - even your chihuahua - can break the skin, pass parasites, cause scarring or necrotic infection. 

[clangerman]

if any of my dogs had bitten the children would have shed tears digging the hole but it would be dug no exceptions lack of training or lack of trust no dog should be a danger to others you get it sorted or get it gone simple as