TRINITY Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Hi guys, looking for help and advice Someone who I know has bought one new and really questioning its accuracy. I have shot it today and i am also coming to the conclusion its lost its accuracy. Anyone had experience, could it just be a bad example of what is usually a reasonable gun Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Well it won't be the barrel that's a given .it could have ruined the scope or slipping mounts .or could be loose in its stock . There maybe some slight barrel play in the breech jaws but very unlikely on a new gun.this only tends to effect 20 year old guns with loads of pellets though them . I'd look to the scope first . I had a bsa lightening ruin a cheap scope once . New quality scope = accuracy restored . Edited March 24, 2021 by Ultrastu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted March 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 He got a brand new Hawke scope with the gun. I now very little about airguns but I wonder if it could be fastened to a test bench and then fired . If still not grouping well, would that tend to eliminate the scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, TRINITY said: He got a brand new Hawke scope with the gun. I now very little about airguns but I wonder if it could be fastened to a test bench and then fired . If still not grouping well, would that tend to eliminate the scope. Not if it's a spring gun, it will still bounce all over the place. Check everything is tight, put the mounts together and check them, maybe try another scope if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted March 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mice! said: Not if it's a spring gun, it will still bounce all over the place. Check everything is tight, put the mounts together and check them, maybe try another scope if you can. Its gas ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, TRINITY said: Its gas ram. It'll still bounce to some degree, because the ram is moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Hello, they do not have many good reviews, you should get very little vibration with a ram, if it's new or still under warranty take it back and get a refund and buy a HW 99 S Edited March 24, 2021 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Try the pellets I have a new r10 I thought the barrel was fxxxxxx but gun shop said try different pellets I know some guns are pellet fussy but look at photos target range 20 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, snow white said: Try the pellets I have a new r10 I thought the barrel was fxxxxxx but gun shop said try different pellets I know some guns are pellet fussy but look at photos target range 20 yards What pellets on bottom target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted March 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Mice! said: Not if it's a spring gun, it will still bounce all over the place. Check everything is tight, put the mounts together and check them, maybe try another scope if you can. Its gas ram. Thanks so far guys. Yes we have tried a couple of pellet brand, results still erratic. Yes it's under gaurantee and I will be contacting dealer. I just wanted yo get a bit of advice before I spoke to them. Having to do this on behalf of the owner who cant back to the shop at the moment Thanks 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 The other thing to look at is the cotton bud on the barrel crown, or if its clipping a mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Oldpigeon air arms Diablo field 177 8.4 grains tin number 46. Dia 4.51: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, snow white said: Oldpigeon air arms Diablo field 177 8.4 grains tin number 46. Dia 4.51: Good air rifle pellet 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted March 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, snow white said: Oldpigeon air arms Diablo field 177 8.4 grains tin number 46. Dia 4.51: One of the brands we used on the test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu64 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 If I read this right its a brand new gun with new scope? No disrespect intended but I think its more likely the shooter than the gun. my own experience with a break barrel spring gun is that the tighter you hold it the worse the group gets. I couldn't hit a cows a** with a shovel until i adopted a completely different style of shooting. the best way I can describe it is to imagine the whole gun is covered in dogs carp. you really dont want to touch it right? So, let the foreend rest on your front hand-do not hold it or grip it, try not to let your face rest on the gun, barely touch it if possible, and use the lightest grip you can on the pistol grip. Complete opposite of shotgun and rifle shooting. shoot some practice groups and see how you get on. I watched Steve shalley on AEAC channel shooting a springer off a bench-he was hardly touching the gun but got some impressive groups at 50 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu64 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 Also, being a new bsa with a hammer forged barrel I would definitely clean the barrel. loads of horrible black stuff normally comes out of a new bsa barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz25 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 My mate has the GRT should be fine but as said there is an art to using ram/springers light hold as said and I keep my elbow high, forehand in the same place trigger hand thumb center of stock be consistent and the gun will be to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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