Steel + choke mods + .410

[Fellside]

20 hours ago, London Best said:

I find them dynamite on farmyard corvids.

 

20 hours ago, Scully said:

I found them excellent for branchers. I really rate Eley cartridges. They are my go to manufacturer for all my shooting except SIPE for driven. I’ll probably end up using Eley for that too, given time and a lead shot ban. 

Yes agreed. I had an interesting day with these Eley 14 grammers - pigeons over a laid barley patch - early in the summer. They were all I had at the time. Fortunately the laid patch was close to the field edge and my hide. Anything hit within 25 yards tumbled. It was virtually recoil-less shooting. The gun just went went ‘pop’, but there was a puff of feathers and a bird falling. Surprisingly effective. 

[Scully]

6 hours ago, Fellside said:

 

Yes agreed. I had an interesting day with these Eley 14 grammers - pigeons over a laid barley patch - early in the summer. They were all I had at the time. Fortunately the laid patch was close to the field edge and my hide. Anything hit within 25 yards tumbled. It was virtually recoil-less shooting. The gun just went went ‘pop’, but there was a puff of feathers and a bird falling. Surprisingly effective. 

While at Westlands clay ground last weekend, I was like a kid with a new toy on the ‘have a go stand’ ( which was woefully unattended by punters ) with a little Kofs .410 ( spectre?) and broke all the targets both on report and sim pairs. They were just drifting incomers to be honest and very easy, but mate who generally beats me at clays, only hit one out of four. It did have a tremendously short stock to be fair. 
It was great fun and I found myself yearning for another .410, but will await pending legislation/effective commercial loads before I make a decision. It will be criminal if they are rendered effectively obsolete. 

Edited October 27, 2022 by Scully

[Fellside]

49 minutes ago, Scully said:

While at Westlands clay ground last weekend, I was like a kid with a new toy on the ‘have a go stand’ ( which was woefully unattended by punters ) with a little Kofs .410 ( spectre?) and broke all the targets both on report and sun pairs. They were just drifting incomers to be honest and very easy, but mate who generally beats me at clays, only hit one out of four. It did have a tremendously short stock to be fair. 
It was great fun and I found myself yearning for another .410, but will await pending legislation/effective commercial loads before I make a decision. It will be criminal if they are rendered effectively obsolete. 

It was probably a youth stock model. My Yildiz (bought for my young boys to use) is similar and this is the one I’ve been enjoying. I usually have a quick 25 when I’m out with them at the clay ground - can’t resist..!! I have to mount the gun in a certain awkward way to achieve ‘fit’ - but oddly enough I can make it work. I completely appreciate how much fun you had watching those clays smash. Go on - just get one….?!

[Scully]

4 hours ago, Fellside said:

It was probably a youth stock model. My Yildiz (bought for my young boys to use) is similar and this is the one I’ve been enjoying. I usually have a quick 25 when I’m out with them at the clay ground - can’t resist..!! I have to mount the gun in a certain awkward way to achieve ‘fit’ - but oddly enough I can make it work. I completely appreciate how much fun you had watching those clays smash. Go on - just get one….?!

🙂 They are tempting I must admit. I’ve been playing about with a Baikel .410 sxs belonging to a mate who bought it for his youngest lad. It’s a very sturdy engineered piece of kit with exceptionally thick barrels and breech. 
I really enjoyed the Mossi pump I bought for my own son many moons ago….yet another one of those regretful sales. 

[Fellside]

3 hours ago, Scully said:

🙂 They are tempting I must admit. I’ve been playing about with a Baikel .410 sxs belonging to a mate who bought it for his youngest lad. It’s a very sturdy engineered piece of kit with exceptionally thick barrels and breech. 
I really enjoyed the Mossi pump I bought for my own son many moons ago….yet another one of those regretful sales. 

Yes, if I could take back all the guns I wish I never sold……?! 

I would certainly need another cabinet…...🙂

[Walker570]

9 hours ago, Fellside said:

 

Yes agreed. I had an interesting day with these Eley 14 grammers - pigeons over a laid barley patch - early in the summer. They were all I had at the time. Fortunately the laid patch was close to the field edge and my hide. Anything hit within 25 yards tumbled. It was virtually recoil-less shooting. The gun just went went ‘pop’, but there was a puff of feathers and a bird falling. Surprisingly effective. 

The sheer joy of shooting a 410.     I have ben using a 410 now for six years for driven game shooting and have never felt undergunned.  I will take a shot at any bird out to 40yrds and if I do my job and put it in the pattern of 18grms of #6s it will ineveitably fall.   Ask a picker up just how many runners he picks behind a 12 gauge shooter and you would be surprised because 12 gauge shooters also ***** birds you know.  

[Fellside]

1 hour ago, Walker570 said:

The sheer joy of shooting a 410.     I have ben using a 410 now for six years for driven game shooting and have never felt undergunned.  I will take a shot at any bird out to 40yrds and if I do my job and put it in the pattern of 18grms of #6s it will ineveitably fall.   Ask a picker up just how many runners he picks behind a 12 gauge shooter and you would be surprised because 12 gauge shooters also ***** birds you know.  

I have yet to enjoy the challenge of taking the 410 on a driven day. Maybe soon….?!

[Ultrastu]

Well maybe now is the time to buy and enjoy a nice .410  while ammo is still available  for it . That's certainly my view and why I have (what I feel is the perfect .410 for me ) one on order .

[Stonepark]

8 hours ago, Scully said:

🙂 They are tempting I must admit. I’ve been playing about with a Baikel .410 sxs belonging to a mate who bought it for his youngest lad. It’s a very sturdy engineered piece of kit with exceptionally thick barrels and breech. 
I really enjoyed the Mossi pump I bought for my own son many moons ago….yet another one of those regretful sales. 

I handled one of the Baikal SxS in a gun shop, it could easily be drilled out to be a 45-70 or shoot 9x74mm there is that much meat in the barrels & must have weighed over 6lb. The chokes in the one I handled were also so tight I didn't even want to think how bad the pattern was.

If your mates one is similar, Poor lad has been handed a drain pipe to learn to shoot with.

Edited October 27, 2022 by Stonepark

[Scully]

7 hours ago, Stonepark said:

I handled one of the Baikal SxS in a gun shop, it could easily be drilled out to be a 45-70 or shoot 9x74mm there is that much meat in the barrels & must have weighed over 6lb. The chokes in the one I handled were also so tight I didn't even want to think how bad the pattern was.

If your mates one is similar, Poor lad has been handed a drain pipe to learn to shoot with.

Yes, it is indeed a chunky little thing! 
He does hit things now and then, but I suspect it's more down to luck than judgement. 

[London Best]

8 hours ago, Stonepark said:

I handled one of the Baikal SxS in a gun shop, it could easily be drilled out to be a 45-70 or shoot 9x74mm there is that much meat in the barrels & must have weighed over 6lb. The chokes in the one I handled were also so tight I didn't even want to think how bad the pattern was.

If your mates one is similar, Poor lad has been handed a drain pipe to learn to shoot with.

I agree. I handled a Baikal SxS .410 about thirty years ago. My first thought was that it was made from a double rifle. I remember it feeling more like 8lb .My friend’s Belgian double is not quite 5lb and both my English doubles weigh 4lb 2oz.