oowee Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Russian missiles killing two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Like I said in the beginning, I know it's not a popular view but I think we should give Russia a taste of his own medicine, Nato should hit Russian forces in Ukraine in retaliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, oowee said: Russian missiles killing two. Just now, 12gauge82 said: Like I said in the beginning, I know it's not a popular view but I think we should give Russia a taste of his own medicine, Nato should hit Russian forces in Ukraine in retaliation. If it is true and it was Russian missiles, then surely we and all NATO members are now at war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, Newbie to this said: If it is true and it was Russian missiles, then surely we and all NATO members are now at war? Do you think NATO would risk all out war for what might be two stray missiles? No one is going to want to escalate this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, welsh1 said: Do you think NATO would risk all out war for what might be two stray missiles? No one is going to want to escalate this. Surely that is what NATO was formed for..... If NATO members do nothing then what is it's point! Do missiles go astray??? Edited November 15, 2022 by Newbie to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Newbie to this said: Surely that is what NATO was formed for..... To be fair, no. NATO was formed to defend against attack and invasion .......... not malfunctioning dodgy equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, Newbie to this said: Surely that is what NATO was formed for..... NATO is an alliance, IF ATTACKED all members will act to defend the attacked member, this may not be an act of aggression but a stupid mistake.As said NATO won't go all out for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: To be fair, no. NATO was formed to defend against attack and invasion .......... not malfunctioning dodgy equipment. OK, is it a known fact that it was malfunctioning equipment, and not an attack? What happens if it was an attack? Do we just take Russia's word that it was malfunctioning equipment? Should we not just get a preemptive nuclear strike in now, just in case? Edited November 15, 2022 by Newbie to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Well - I doubt it is known for certain, but two missiles against a country like Poland in (I understand) rural areas seems unlikely to be the start of an offensive against Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 31 minutes ago, oowee said: Russian missiles killing two. Amazing timing giving the Russian missiles fired in Ukraine today, I am no fan of Russia in any shape or form but this smacks of Ukraine wanting to get NATO pulled in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Weihrauch17 said: Amazing timing giving the Russian missiles fired in Ukraine today, I am no fan of Russia in any shape or form but this smacks of Ukraine wanting to get NATO pulled in. Ohh, never thought of that, What if it was a false flag event on Ukraine's part? Are we then at war with them? Do we join Russia? Should we nuke them? Should we maybe change the thread title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Ohh, never thought of that, What if it was a false flag event on Ukraine's part? Are we then at war with them? Do we join Russia? Should we nuke them? Should we maybe change the thread title? What a stupid reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, Weihrauch17 said: What a stupid reply. If you say so. It's more of a stupid thread title. Poland was either attacked or they weren't. If they were, then surely we are now at war as a NATO member, if they weren't then the thread title is wrong. Does it depend who attacked Poland, as to whether we are at war with them? Surely if it was Ukraine as your comment suggests, then they have deliberately attacked a NATO member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: Amazing timing giving the Russian missiles fired in Ukraine today, I am no fan of Russia in any shape or form but this smacks of Ukraine wanting to get NATO pulled in. Chill and look at the news. It looks like two russian missiles overshot / shot down. When Russia is being a bottom most of the time why do you jump to an attack by Ukraine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Yes they would have tried a provocation hardly an attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Hello, it's going to be interesting to hear what Putin's response will be if it is confirmed as Russian missiles that hit polish border land and killed 2 citizens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Newbie to this said: It's more of a stupid thread title. Maybe a reflection of the time of posting and the source of the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, Weihrauch17 said: Yes they would have tried a provocation hardly an attack. Missiles deliberately fired into a sovereign nation, killing people is not an attack, OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Newbie to this said: Missiles deliberately fired into a sovereign nation, killing people is not an attack, OK That would be but we don't know yet what has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, oowee said: Chill and look at the news. It looks like two russian missiles overshot / shot down. When Russia is being a bottom most of the time why do you jump to an attack by Ukraine? Because their infrastructure is being destroyed with winter coming and they are desperate to pull NATO in. Edited November 15, 2022 by Weihrauch17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, oowee said: That would be but we don't know yet what has happened. I was replying to the comment that Ukraine could possibly be behind it, and it's not an attack, just provocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, Weihrauch17 said: Because their infrastructure is being destroyed with winter coming and they afe desperate to pull NATO in. Why do you say that? Where is the evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, oowee said: Why do you say that? Where is the evidence? Really, large swathes of major cities have no power and they have been trying to get NATO involved form day one! Remember the constant requests for no fly zones at the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Missiles deliberately fired into a sovereign nation, killing people is not an attack, OK Just to put a bit of perspective on this, both sides dropped bombs on Switzerland, in error, during WW2. The Swiss declared war on neither side. Given the state of Russia's munitions the missiles are likely to be an unfortunate cock-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, amateur said: Just to put a bit of perspective on this, both sides dropped bombs on Switzerland, in error, during WW2. The Swiss declared war on neither side. Given the state of Russia's munitions the missiles are likely to be an unfortunate cock-up /\ This. Possibly a Russian missile hit but not destroyed by anti missile technology. Ukraine now claims to be successfully 'preventing' about 75% of incoming missiles, but they still have to fall somewhere. The answer is for Russia to stop firing them. You cannot blame Ukraine for trying to defend itself from incoming missiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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