ratty1 Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) I'm having to sell up everything as we're moving over sea's ,so my Lee loadal is up for sale. Bought new 18 months ago and only loaded 100 ISH cartridges. Comes with all the bushes . £50 + postage , Exeter based Cheers Ross Edited February 8, 2023 by ratty1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 Collection from where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 Exeter Devon from previous posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 minute ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Exeter Devon from previous posts Thanks. Too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 46 minutes ago, DUNKS said: Thanks. Too far. Hello, what about posting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 Just now, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, what about posting ? Puts the price up too far thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, DUNKS said: Puts the price up too far thanks. Ok, as a side note I read you were in the royal navy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Ok, as a side note I read you were in the royal navy ? When I was alive yes. and no I am not the father.😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, DUNKS said: Puts the price up too far thanks. £8 to post . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 Being an ignoramus and cartridge loading virgin - Can a 12 gauge reloading press be converted to other calibres ie 20 or 16? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 For CaptC - Specifically for the Lee Loadall there are 20 and 16 gauge conversion tool sets available but I'm not sure of the price - US prices are about £30 per set. The 12G and 20G versions will make either 2 3/4 or 3 inch shells without any further tooling required. In addition the are 3D printed conversion tool sets on eBay for other bores such as 28G. Interestingly, Lee never made a .410 model, claiming that the powder and shot delivery was too inconsistent for such a small cartridge. Realistically though, you are better off buying the Lee Loadall in the calibre you are mostly going to be loading in due to the total costs versus the cost of a new unit. For all other shotgun presses, most shotgun loading presses can be converted with the right tool set. The issue is always availability and price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Blackjack said: For CaptC - Specifically for the Lee Loadall there are 20 and 16 gauge conversion tool sets available but I'm not sure of the price - US prices are about £30 per set. The 12G and 20G versions will make either 2 3/4 or 3 inch shells without any further tooling required. In addition the are 3D printed conversion tool sets on eBay for other bores such as 28G. Interestingly, Lee never made a .410 model, claiming that the powder and shot delivery was too inconsistent for such a small cartridge. Realistically though, you are better off buying the Lee Loadall in the calibre you are mostly going to be loading in due to the total costs versus the cost of a new unit. For all other shotgun presses, most shotgun loading presses can be converted with the right tool set. The issue is always availability and price. Thank you for an excellent answer - My thoughts are to find a 20g loader as it's my most used calibre but is the outlay worth a few hundred cartridges? I think the answer is no --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 hours ago, CaptC said: Thank you for an excellent answer - My thoughts are to find a 20g loader as it's my most used calibre but is the outlay worth a few hundred cartridges? I think the answer is no --- Lee loadall conversion kit for 20g is around £28. from Clay and Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 Thanks - then there’s all the gubbins so unless a lot of cartridges are needed it’s expensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 56 minutes ago, CaptC said: Thanks - then there’s all the gubbins so unless a lot of cartridges are needed it’s expensive? Yep - most reloaders load for the technical interest and challenge - very few have ever succeeded in making a net profit! However, once you can reload, you never look at a cartridge or a gun the same way again........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptC Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 57 minutes ago, Blackjack said: Yep - most reloaders load for the technical interest and challenge - very few have ever succeeded in making a net profit! However, once you can reload, you never look at a cartridge or a gun the same way again........... Interesting. I can see OCD coming soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 14 hours ago, Blackjack said: Yep - most reloaders load for the technical interest and challenge - very few have ever succeeded in making a net profit! However, once you can reload, you never look at a cartridge or a gun the same way again........... That is unless you load black powder. Less than half the price of retail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 3 hours ago, DUNKS said: That is unless you load black powder. Less than half the price of retail! Perhaps........most reloaders will easily spend £300 - £400 on equipment (I've spent thousands). That means at a 50% "reloading discount" you have to buy £600 - £800 worth of ammunition just to break even and that doesn't account for the time you spent loading or learning, testing, rezeroing, chronographing, etc. It's much more a hobby than a business model....... Don't let that stop anyone buying the press on offer though! Reloading is fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 Fair enough but you obviously move in different circles to me. I bought a second hand Lee loadall for £50 along with a shed load of wads powder and primers. I only load 12g black powder. and the cartridges cost less than half price of retail even after vectoring the initial outlay. WHICH IS WHAT I SAID. The Lee is slow and not too versatile but it does a good job and I have loaded thousands of cartridges with it. AT HALF PRICE. Please dont put folk off because they cant afford the best of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 17 hours ago, CaptC said: Interesting. I can see OCD coming soon i use a mec 600jr mk5 but i only shoot 20g these days so well worth it to me,plus u can load whatever u like, 43 minutes ago, Blackjack said: Perhaps........most reloaders will easily spend £300 - £400 on equipment (I've spent thousands). That means at a 50% "reloading discount" you have to buy £600 - £800 worth of ammunition just to break even and that doesn't account for the time you spent loading or learning, testing, rezeroing, chronographing, etc. It's much more a hobby than a business model....... Don't let that stop anyone buying the press on offer though! Reloading is fun! ive advertised a mec 600jr twice in sales for only £60 collected but ad no takers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 I'm not try to put people off.......I'm trying to encourage them because it is a fascinating part of the sport. I started with a 2nd hand Lee Loader kit for .223 REM off eBay. I think I paid £20 for it. However, I soon got pulled down into the rabbit hole and now the next stage for me is neck turning, arbour presses and inline dies.....I'll be loading in the next two lifetimes to recover the costs of that gear! From a shotgun perspective the cheapest "gear less" handloading I've done is brass .410 cartridges. You can do most of that without a press or any other gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, hawkfanz said: i use a mec 600jr mk5 but i only shoot 20g these days so well worth it to me,plus u can load whatever u like, ive advertised a mec 600jr twice in sales for only £60 collected but ad no takers, PM sent regarding the press! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 11, 2023 Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 Can these be adapted to load 2 1/2" ctridges I wonder, a lot of old BP guns are this chamber size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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