Feltwad Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 Antique muzzle loaders for sale Tennants Milataria Auction Leyburn on Wednesday 22nd March, original antique percussion shotguns by known North-east Georgian and Victorian Makers plus rifles and pistols Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) Thanks mate . Just might go. Just had a look, that's some sale. Edited March 9, 2023 by DUNKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted March 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2023 Viewing today the 21st march 10am to 5 pm Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted March 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 Not much interest in the percussion single barrel antique shotguns several not sold Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 41 minutes ago, Feltwad said: Not much interest in the percussion single barrel antique shotguns several not sold Feltwad I keep being reminded by these threads that I have a muzzle loader (on my SGC and fully usable) but have never got round to it. Another 'thing' on the long list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted March 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: I keep being reminded by these threads that I have a muzzle loader (on my SGC and fully usable) but have never got round to it. Another 'thing' on the long list. If it is on your SGC it is time you shot it and removed those cob webs from the bore . Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Feltwad said: If it is on your SGC it is time you shot it and removed those cob webs from the bore . Feltwad I know. It is on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith 66 Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 One good bird bagged with a muzzleloader is worth ten shot with a newfangled breechloader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted March 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Keith 66 said: One good bird bagged with a muzzleloader is worth ten shot with a newfangled breechloader. Better still if it is a flintlock. Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith 66 Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 I will give you that! Unfortunately i dont own a flintlock yet, all my muzzleloading has been done with percussion guns. I started with a horrible quality Indian 12g bengal carbine, that went long ago, then a pedersoli double, that shot well but had the fault that its nipples were angled outwards, this meant a significant portion of the cap explosion was diverted out & down the side of the gun, If your hand was far back on the fore end your wrist got blasted. Got rid of that & got a Navy arms, much stronger & better made gun & still got it. Also shot a bland 9bore live pigeon gun for some years. I picked up a Williams 6 bore live pigeon gun a few years ago, its bore is perfect so i think i might have to bring that one back into service for a while! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted March 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Keith 66 said: I will give you that! Unfortunately i dont own a flintlock yet, all my muzzleloading has been done with percussion guns. I started with a horrible quality Indian 12g bengal carbine, that went long ago, then a pedersoli double, that shot well but had the fault that its nipples were angled outwards, this meant a significant portion of the cap explosion was diverted out & down the side of the gun, If your hand was far back on the fore end your wrist got blasted. Got rid of that & got a Navy arms, much stronger & better made gun & still got it. Also shot a bland 9bore live pigeon gun for some years. I picked up a Williams 6 bore live pigeon gun a few years ago, its bore is perfect so i think i might have to bring that one back into service for a while! It is not so much the nipples it is more the hammers which are not hitting the nipple square on or the hammer nose is not deep enough, on originals this will happen when the hammer nose skirt is worn away through constant use . If this happens it is best to have on a wrist guard because cap burns become embedded in your skin like a tattoo Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Feltwad said: It is not so much the nipples it is more the hammers which are not hitting the nipple square on or the hammer nose is not deep enough, on originals this will happen when the hammer nose skirt is worn away through constant use . If this happens it is best to have on a wrist guard because cap burns become embedded in your skin like a tattoo Feltwad Good advice. I always shoot percussion wearing safety glasses and shooting mits. Have had a piece of cap buried in the back of the hand and a pal with a piece in his cheek bone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith 66 Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 With that gun the nipples were definately angled outwards, so hammers didnt land square, effect was the same, an instant very hot tattoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted March 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 Any north-east members remember this Country Fair in the late 1970, of Teesdale Country Fair at Lartington , Barnard Castle the Cumbria Branch of the MLAGB Display Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serrac Posted May 21, 2023 Report Share Posted May 21, 2023 I was at Cluny yesterday and noticed right away there was something different about the reports coming from the skeet range. It turned out MLAGB were visiting for one of their competition days. I'd never seen muzzle loaders actually being shot before and hung around for 30mins or so just watching. They were a friendly bunch and a couple of them chatted to me and showed me their guns - most of them from the 1850s. One of the shooters was a lady called Claire and she invited myself and a young lad about 13 yo to come over and gave us a demonstration of the loading process. She also offered me a few shots once the competition was finished but unfortunately I couldn't hang around that long. I'm glad I happened to be there at the same time as them - it was great to see and hear these old guns in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) Shame that most shooting grounds ban black powder shooters. I have five clay ground within easy distance, only one will accept the black stuff. Not all on noise but silly excuses, upsets other shooters, dont like the smoke etc. Cant really understand this as I never get any complaints when i shoot at Lakeside, quite the opposite with folk asking questions and begging a go. It also amazes me when some dedicated clay shooters appear to know nothing about shooting history. I unfortunately could not get to the sale due to family illness. Edited May 23, 2023 by DUNKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted May 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 On 21/05/2023 at 18:19, serrac said: I was at Cluny yesterday and noticed right away there was something different about the reports coming from the skeet range. It turned out MLAGB were visiting for one of their competition days. I'd never seen muzzle loaders actually being shot before and hung around for 30mins or so just watching. They were a friendly bunch and a couple of them chatted to me and showed me their guns - most of them from the 1850s. One of the shooters was a lady called Claire and she invited myself and a young lad about 13 yo to come over and gave us a demonstration of the loading process. She also offered me a few shots once the competition was finished but unfortunately I couldn't hang around that long. I'm glad I happened to be there at the same time as them - it was great to see and hear these old guns in action. That would be Claire and Martin of the MLAGB who arrange for the M LAGB different shoots in parts of the UK including ScotlandHope it was a good day . Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted May 29, 2023 Report Share Posted May 29, 2023 Over 40 years ago I was at a Country fair near Abercrave,where they had a muzzle loader and a clay trap.It was have a go for £1 I think,so I couldn’t resist.They said I was the first one that day to hit the clay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted May 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2023 8 hours ago, TOPGUN749 said: Over 40 years ago I was at a Country fair near Abercrave,where they had a muzzle loader and a clay trap.It was have a go for £1 I think,so I couldn’t resist.They said I was the first one that day to hit the clay! It is now a dying exhibit at country and game fair , mostly the cost and people to run them also black powder is not allowed at most fairs it upsets' the local exhibits Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 I would say to any body on here, rifle shooter, clay shooter, pistol shooter or whatever. Make a point of joining in with your local MLAGB . Its not expensive, its a stonking amount of fun and their legal defence team is way ahead of other associations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted June 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 12 hours ago, Vince Green said: I would say to any body on here, rifle shooter, clay shooter, pistol shooter or whatever. Make a point of joining in with your local MLAGB . Its not expensive, its a stonking amount of fun and their legal defence team is way ahead of other associations. Not the organisation like it used to be when I joined only the three principles plus cannon that you mentioned if these are your interest Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manton Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 On 29/05/2023 at 20:02, Feltwad said: It is now a dying exhibit at country and game fair , mostly the cost and people to run them also black powder is not allowed at most fairs it upsets' the local exhibits Feltwad I cannot understand why black powder shooters should not be welcome at any form of country event unless it is the dreaded health and safety brigade interfering again . I am an engineer and find it difficult to stand beside a steam engine boiler as I know the carnage a boiler explosion causes ,so why all the nonsence about black powder. Clouds of smoke and noise are surely an exageration . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted June 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 There are several reasons why Black Powder not allowed at country fairs or gun clubs. For gun clubs it is the noise and smoke, plus the hold up the line and a lot of shooters believe that shooting black powder in old hammer guns with Damascus barrels is dangerous, I have seen shooters walk of the field and complain to the shoot owner if anyone fires a black powder cartridge or use a muzzle loader or hammer gun For the country fairs it is mostly the gun club and shooting organisations who also run a Have a go stand including the muzzle loaders when the public here the boom from a big gun and see the cloud of smoke it automatically bring the crowds who want to have a go which can keep the loaders fully occupied ,This does not go down very well with other shooting organisation which through time the muzzle loader are given the push , who are the muzzle loaders worse enemy easy his fellow shooters. Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manton Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 When I wrote the previous post i was rather hoping what I said was correct, although I had doubts. I am afraid you have just confirmined what I suspected and it fits in with my experiences in various types of gun club for over fifty years. Shooters are becoming less tolerant of others shooting disciplines and interests and this weakens our negotiating position in opposing restrictions on our sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 On 05/06/2023 at 15:49, Feltwad said: There are several reasons why Black Powder not allowed at country fairs or gun clubs. For gun clubs it is the noise and smoke, plus the hold up the line and a lot of shooters believe that shooting black powder in old hammer guns with Damascus barrels is dangerous, I have seen shooters walk of the field and complain to the shoot owner if anyone fires a black powder cartridge or use a muzzle loader or hammer gun For the country fairs it is mostly the gun club and shooting organisations who also run a Have a go stand including the muzzle loaders when the public here the boom from a big gun and see the cloud of smoke it automatically bring the crowds who want to have a go which can keep the loaders fully occupied ,This does not go down very well with other shooting organisation which through time the muzzle loader are given the push , who are the muzzle loaders worse enemy easy his fellow shooters. Feltwad EXACTLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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