Spr1985 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 (edited) I’ve just been reading purely by chance about the chief constable of Northamptonshire police being found guilty by the iopc of gross misconduct and false/fraudulent representation in public office :- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqq74pg1evo could this cause issues for ticket holders sgc and or fac that where issued whilst he was in post? I hope it won’t for anyone that may be in that force area but thought it was worth bringing to everyone’s attention. maybe @Conor O'Gorman could pass comment, get a response from the basc legal team? Edited June 21 by Spr1985 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 yes ive just read same article,it seems theres lots of shady stuff goin on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 41 minutes ago, hawkfanz said: yes ive just read same article,it seems theres lots of shady stuff goin on. Shady stuff? You'll be telling me next that all senior officers get promoted weeks before they retire 😡. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 2 hours ago, Spr1985 said: I’ve just been reading purely by chance about the chief constable of Northamptonshire police being found guilty by the iopc of gross misconduct and false/fraudulent representation in public office :- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqq74pg1evo could this cause issues for ticket holders sgc and or fac that where issued whilst he was in post? I hope it won’t for anyone that may be in that force area but thought it was worth bringing to everyone’s attention. maybe @Conor O'Gorman could pass comment, get a response from the basc legal team? Chief constables join and leave forces regularly for all sorts of reasons, and this departure is not going to cause any issues for any certs issued whilst that chief constable was in post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted June 21 Author Report Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Conor O'Gorman said: Chief constables join and leave forces regularly for all sorts of reasons, and this departure is not going to cause any issues for any certs issued whilst that chief constable was in post. It was more with regards to the circumstances, he didn’t leave he was fired/sacked and had his integrity royally undermined. But, thank you for the response . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 2 hours ago, Spr1985 said: It was more with regards to the circumstances, he didn’t leave he was fired/sacked and had his integrity royally undermined. But, thank you for the response . You are welcome, and I am aware of the circumstances, and I would repeat that this departure is not going to cause any issues for any certs issued whilst that chief constable was in post. Northamptonshire are one of the worst forces currently for firearms licensing turnaround times. Would you be willing to write to the PCC to raise your concerns about this and to request that improved service for firearms owners should be one of the priorities for the incoming chief constable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 Surely as the OP doesn't reside in Northamptonshire it is rather pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 13 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Surely as the OP doesn't reside in Northamptonshire it is rather pointless. The OP raised the concerns, and they may well live in that area, not all profiles are kept up to date, let's see what the answer is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 Yes, let's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 3 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said: Northamptonshire are one of the worst forces currently for firearms licensing turnaround times. As I see it all those medals that had to be polished probably didn't then leave him much time spare for signing FACs and SGCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyshooter Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 I doubt if this will impact on certificate holders, but the man is a proven liar and everything that his has done in his police career is surely worthy of consideration of review . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted June 22 Author Report Share Posted June 22 17 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said: You are welcome, and I am aware of the circumstances, and I would repeat that this departure is not going to cause any issues for any certs issued whilst that chief constable was in post. Northamptonshire are one of the worst forces currently for firearms licensing turnaround times. Would you be willing to write to the PCC to raise your concerns about this and to request that improved service for firearms owners should be one of the priorities for the incoming chief constable? Again thanks for the response, @TIGHTCHOKEis correct I do not reside in Northamptonshire, i brought the issue to light for the community on PW as I know some of the members are in that area, and tagged you into it because I’m a Basc member and had a feeling you’d be able to give an answer. As for your question, yes if it was likely to be of use and actually be taken on board I would happily write to the pcc, but as tightchoke has already pointed out I don’t live in the area and will therefore likely be a pointless exercise. Although, as a fully payed up member of The Basc I would encourage my representative body to take this up on behalf of all basc members residing in that area. 14 hours ago, tonyshooter said: I doubt if this will impact on certificate holders, but the man is a proven liar and everything that his has done in his police career is surely worthy of consideration of review . Entirely agree with what you have said and is what I was saying in a less obvious way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, Spr1985 said: Again thanks for the response, @TIGHTCHOKEis correct I do not reside in Northamptonshire, i brought the issue to light for the community on PW as I know some of the members are in that area, and tagged you into it because I’m a Basc member and had a feeling you’d be able to give an answer. As for your question, yes if it was likely to be of use and actually be taken on board I would happily write to the pcc, but as tightchoke has already pointed out I don’t live in the area and will therefore likely be a pointless exercise. Although, as a fully payed up member of The Basc I would encourage my representative body to take this up on behalf of all basc members residing in that area. Thanks. Are you happy with the advice that that this departure is not going to cause any issues for any certs issued whilst that chief constable was in post? As regards contacting PCCs, BASC has been contacting the newly elected PCCs following BASC's campaign during PCC elections which some 13,000 engaged with. See: https://basc.org.uk/what-the-pcc-election-results-mean-for-firearms-licensing/ And it really helps if individuals as well as organisations contact PCCs where firearms licensing performance needs improving. I assumed you were in Northants but as you are not I agree it would not be relevant. However, if your police force is underperforming on firearms licensing then writing to your PCC about that would help. The current priority is the general election, and again we are asking people to support BASC's campaign, by contacting candidate MPs and letting us know the feedback. If you have not already done so please visit https://basc.org.uk/contact-your-parliamentary-candidates/ to see your candidates' views on shooting - or where there has been no answer from them - to contact them asking for an answer. Edited June 22 by Conor O'Gorman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted June 22 Author Report Share Posted June 22 3 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said: he current priority is the general election, and again we are asking people to support BASC's campaign, by contacting candidate MPs and letting us know the feedback. If you have not already done so please visit https://basc.org.uk/contact-your-parliamentary-candidates/ to see your candidates' views on shooting - or where there has been no answer from them - to contact them asking for an answer. I’d not considered this, I’ll put it in my to do list for this weekend/coming week. As for the advice/answer you provided re the initial post, yes I’m happy and can only hope that you’re correct, let’s hope his indiscretions don’t lead to wider scrutiny of decision made by/under him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, Spr1985 said: I’d not considered this, I’ll put it in my to do list for this weekend/coming week. As for the advice/answer you provided re the initial post, yes I’m happy and can only hope that you’re correct, let’s hope his indiscretions don’t lead to wider scrutiny of decision made by/under him Thank you. If you get any reply emails please send them to politics@basc.org.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted June 23 Author Report Share Posted June 23 19 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said: Thank you. If you get any reply emails please send them to politics@basc.org.uk Any responses will be forwarded in due course, I have used the basc site and pre written email (with a little added) to send three local candidates the email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 On 21/06/2024 at 13:47, bruno22rf said: Shady stuff? You'll be telling me next that all senior officers get promoted weeks before they retire 😡. It had to be a minimum of two months. Pension decided by previous 2 months pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 16 hours ago, Spr1985 said: Any responses will be forwarded in due course, I have used the basc site and pre written email (with a little added) to send three local candidates the email. Great, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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