ehb102 Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 I'm usually inclined to let the FEO say whatever unchallenged, because who needs the trouble? But now they are causing me issues. I have a shotgun cabinet I share with my other half. Other half has one gun. I have guns. Last FEO insisted that every gun I own should be listed on my other half's licence as they have access via our shared shotgun cabinet. Previously the 72 hour rule was enough. Now I have let some guns go, I did all the paperwork to take them off my licence and put them on someone else's. Do I now have to do that again for the other half's licence? Trouble is, other half's licence is not yet renewed and I have had to confiscate the gun cabinet keys. I really think this is heading for a big mess up. Are Firearms now saying that guns are shared marital property and must be listed as such? Which bit of what the FEO claimed was untrue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 your guns should only need a chain etc thru the trigger guard and padlock and only on your certificate ps i thought this only had to be done if one of you had a firearm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 Northants Police require all shotguns in the cabinet to be on my, and my wife's SGC as we both have access to the cabinet. When I purchase a shotgun I also add it to her SGC table 2 as 'shared'. All notifications to the firearms dept are done on line. We both used to notify them of the purchase, as instructed by them. However, recently that's changed. I now notify them of purchase for their records and have to separately email them, as owner that I'm sharing it with my wife. I still add it to her table 2. Despite all this they still manage to make errors. Just going through my renewal process now and was accused of not notifying them of a sale two years ago. Fortunately I retain all records and could prove compliance and the mistake at their end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 Get another cabinet? They aren’t expensive. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 3 hours ago, Scully said: Get another cabinet? They aren’t expensive. 🤷♂️ I would agree, especially if she only owns a single gun. A 1 capacity gun cabinet doesn’t take up much room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 This has always been standard in Hampshire. I'd suggest your force is not getting tighter uniquely, but rather now following standard practices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fil Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 Some forces have differing views unfortunately. TVP in our area were wanting guns on both tickets as both had access but only the actual "owner" of the gun notified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted November 7 Report Share Posted November 7 (edited) I am about to go through something similar. I have a large gun cabinet with my guns stored within. I also have 2 guns which are 'earmarked' for my 2 Grandsons, aged 21 and 18. The 21 year old is currently applying for a Shotgun Certificate. For the time being, the guns will remain with me, but will be entered on his Certificate (both guns), but also remain on mine.This will enable him to buy his own ammunition (thankfully), also to go shooting either on his own or with his brother. I have fitted a single gun clamp in their home, to allow them to take a gun and retain it there, pending it's return to me. Neither will have access to my cabinet, likewise, I will not have access to the gun clamp, at their home. To me it all seems pretty straight forward, but I do envisage some teething problems. The younger Grandson will at no time have access to any guns unsupervised. Edited November 7 by Westley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted Saturday at 11:56 Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:56 On 31/10/2024 at 14:55, Scully said: Get another cabinet? They aren’t expensive. 🤷♂️ This is what I did for the missus , I Bought a 3 gun cabinet and bolted it to the side of my 16 gun cabinet , So she has got her own keys separate from mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted Saturday at 13:39 Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 13:39 It's tiresome. More paperwork - when they claim they are so overworked they can't handle what they do get. If I could have put shared cabinet owner on the form they would have cut the work on half. It's also legally muddy. "Ownership", "possession", "loan" - all have different meanings in law that we have to be careful to know and abide by, but the Police can change it to suit them? There will be a court case at some point over some very expensive guns.and a divorce. Not my guns, mine are cheapies 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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