amateur Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 10 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Nooo. Done Jap Navarra thing a few times as stated- just fancy buying something that takes all my time and money, just like the boats I have had which drained my account quicker than any wife could do. I'm not sure that I would want someone so clearly, notifiably insane flying me 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miki Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 (edited) On 24/11/2024 at 08:28, Jaymo said: I have an itch ( no, not that one as the cream from the internet worked 🤣). It’s the Defender itch. 1990 to 2005, ideally a pick up version. should I, shouldn’t I? And what should I look out for apart from chassis rot? TIA Excelent idea. If you like tinkering and have a basic mechanical bent and a good set of tools. Get yourself a 300tdi engined Defender with a galvanised chassis and bulkhead. There are a few around. Avoid anything that's not had extensive chassis work done. TD5s can be electrically problematic but have a more powerful and smoother engine than the earlier 300tdi Avoid the later Ford engined varieties. Look closely at the doors, they have a steel frame that rots easily. Look behind any chequer plate as often it's used to cover up rot etc. Lift up the floor mats and examine the floor and gearbox tunnel. Remember the car is 20 to 30 years old. Spares are readily available and not overy expensive if you go for 'after market parts. There are many OEM bits that are 1/3rd of the price Landrover charge and just as good. If you can do work on the car yourself (change the oils and filters, fit nes brake pads and disks etc) then they are a great car to ow, If you have to take it to the garage to change a bulb or fix the indicators (and other minor electrical issues)... it'll be expensive. This lot are good .... https://www.landyzone.co.uk Edited November 26 by miki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 On 25/11/2024 at 21:49, Miserableolgit said: I've had more Land Rover's, Series, 90, 110, 130 & Puma's [plus Discovery, Range Rover] than I care to mention. That said I'm glad I traded in the last 2.2 110 XS USW I bought in 2014 two years after I purchased it new. That vehicle, manufactured toward the end of the production run was to be THE one I kept for good and therefore like most I had before was rustproofed [Dinitrol or Bilt Hamber products] and generally loved as soon as I got it. However it was so troublesome, spent so much time going back and forth for warranty work that in the end I, as a dyed in the wool Land Rover enthusiast, gave up. I would only buy another as a hobby vehicle but am not prepared to buy at today's ridiculous prices. I feel your pain. My 2.4TDCi 110 Is also the XS station wagon, and was to be my dream vehicle, but as I’ve said it turned into a nightmare. It is a 2010 model and was about seven years old when I bought it with 64k on the clock. It developed breathing problems and would go into ‘limp mode’ which could be overcome by a quick re-set ( which I’ve even done at 70 mph on the motorway! ) and no diagnostics could diagnose. Eventually it was discovered it was the cylinder head, so it was skimmed. Problem sorted. Since then it has had a new turbo, wiper motors ( twice ) which entails taking the entire dash out, and various other problems ( none of which are cheap ) including welding parts of the chassis. Unlike you I haven’t sold it because I’ve spent so much money on it, and as my OH points out, if I sell it I’ll regret it every time I see one. Mate bought one of the last 90’s made; a Ltd edition and said his never caused him any bother, but as I pointed out to him….’ Well if you don’t use it, it wont.’ 😀 His sat on his drive six days a week and never travelled further than 15 miles on that day. They all look great sat on a drive, and indeed are, but mine is used on a daily basis for work. He recently p’xed it for a Tourag V6, after his 90 developed a fault which couldn’t be resolved. His Tourag also just sits on his drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 In 2006 I rebuilt a 1986 90 hardtop on a new chassis, using a 1998 300Tdi engine which had done 53,000 miles from new. I rebuilt using new, genuine parts or good quality aftermarket. I did not use any budget aftermarket stuff made from chocolate like the ‘Britpart’ rubbish. I had to spend nothing (0) on that vehicle other than regular service items for the next six years, when I spent about £1,000 completely rebuilding the braking system. It did not sit on my drive and was picking up, loading or stalking most days of the week. For two of those six years my 90 covered 18,000 miles each year. I sold the vehicle in 2014 and it now lives just a half mile away but is rarely used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted November 27 Author Report Share Posted November 27 On 26/11/2024 at 14:08, amateur said: I'm not sure that I would want someone so clearly, notifiably insane flying me 🤣 I don’t fly, I get George the autopilot to do it for me. Except when we had multiple AP failure the other day and had to do it the old fashioned way. On 26/11/2024 at 16:39, miki said: Excelent idea. If you like tinkering and have a basic mechanical bent and a good set of tools. Get yourself a 300tdi engined Defender with a galvanised chassis and bulkhead. There are a few around. Avoid anything that's not had extensive chassis work done. TD5s can be electrically problematic but have a more powerful and smoother engine than the earlier 300tdi Avoid the later Ford engined varieties. Look closely at the doors, they have a steel frame that rots easily. Look behind any chequer plate as often it's used to cover up rot etc. Lift up the floor mats and examine the floor and gearbox tunnel. Remember the car is 20 to 30 years old. Spares are readily available and not overy expensive if you go for 'after market parts. There are many OEM bits that are 1/3rd of the price Landrover charge and just as good. If you can do work on the car yourself (change the oils and filters, fit nes brake pads and disks etc) then they are a great car to ow, If you have to take it to the garage to change a bulb or fix the indicators (and other minor electrical issues)... it'll be expensive. This lot are good .... https://www.landyzone.co.uk Thanks - can’t quite decide on a 110 or pickup. Looking around the 1990 to 2000 age group. Have a well equipped garage and tool selection and can wield a spanner- built race bikes and restored the odd classic too. Was with a friend today who has a lightweight, a 90 and also a 110 and was quizzing him. Britpart spares were mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 47 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Britpart spares were mentioned NO!…..don’t touch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 1 hour ago, London Best said: NO!…..don’t touch them. This! Nightmare's in a blue box! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted November 28 Author Report Share Posted November 28 19 hours ago, Miserableolgit said: This! Nightmare's in a blue box! That bad?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 18 minutes ago, Jaymo said: That bad?? I have in the past fitted new Britparts which did not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 1 hour ago, Jaymo said: That bad?? The Land Rover forums have stories of poor quality parts produced / supplied by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 1 minute ago, Miserableolgit said: The Land Rover forums have stories of poor quality parts produced / supplied by them. Probably trying to match the Lucas electrics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted November 28 Report Share Posted November 28 On 27/11/2024 at 17:47, Scully said: I feel your pain. My 2.4TDCi 110 Is also the XS station wagon, and was to be my dream vehicle, but as I’ve said it turned into a nightmare. It is a 2010 model and was about seven years old when I bought it with 64k on the clock. It developed breathing problems and would go into ‘limp mode’ which could be overcome by a quick re-set ( which I’ve even done at 70 mph on the motorway! ) and no diagnostics could diagnose. Eventually it was discovered it was the cylinder head, so it was skimmed. Problem sorted. Since then it has had a new turbo, wiper motors ( twice ) which entails taking the entire dash out, and various other problems ( none of which are cheap ) including welding parts of the chassis. Unlike you I haven’t sold it because I’ve spent so much money on it, and as my OH points out, if I sell it I’ll regret it every time I see one. Mate bought one of the last 90’s made; a Ltd edition and said his never caused him any bother, but as I pointed out to him….’ Well if you don’t use it, it wont.’ 😀 His sat on his drive six days a week and never travelled further than 15 miles on that day. They all look great sat on a drive, and indeed are, but mine is used on a daily basis for work. He recently p’xed it for a Tourag V6, after his 90 developed a fault which couldn’t be resolved. His Tourag also just sits on his drive. My TDCi's [2.4 and 2.2] were all new and most had to go back for warranty work, niggles. Petty stuff for the most part like corrosion around the screen frame & 'hinge' blocks, poor powder coating that flaked off ancillaries like side bars, mud flap brackets etc which I thought ought to be replaced while the 3 year warranty period was still valid. I expected a 4x4 courtesy vehicle to be supplied and delivered and my vehicle picked up then returned when work was completed. This was the general way things were done but the last one turned into something of a farce when they couldn't locate the transmission clunk issue so it kept going back for this or that to be done on the rear axle, but within a week or two the clunk reappeared so back it would go. When the dealer started getting snooty about collection and delivery, no 4x4 courtesy vehicle available etc it was time for it to go. Prior to that I'd owned various Series, 90, 110, 200 / 300tdi, TD5 etc most if not all I maintained myself including engine, transmission etc rebuilds so I kind of knew my way around them just a bit. IMHO my last TDCi's issue was in the shaft that connected the 6 speed box to the transfer box [well documented cases of lack of lube on assembly] but the dealer would not have it and kept replacing rear axle half shafts, drive members and diff... and not sorting the real issue. I don't have patience and time for that kind of messing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 Hello, I thought this may be of interest, My friends Son works in Land Rover Spares and the Company has just moved into a brand new Warehouse holding 30 Million £s of spares, !!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 3 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, I thought this may be of interest, My friends Son works in Land Rover Spares and the Company has just moved into a brand new Warehouse holding 30 Million £s of spares, !!!!!!!!!!! If that's at LandRover's current 'retail' price for spares - it's not many! The spares for the new models are astronomically expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 7 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: If that's at LandRover's current 'retail' price for spares - it's not many! The spares for the new models are astronomically expensive. Hello, I would not think so as they only sell to Traders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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