JohnGalway Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Quick lesson on why this topic has caused bother. 1. Title, Vandal Hare Taken Out. 2. Subtitle Bit Graphic. 3. Big smiley head next to all of the above For those that will have read this far without being shot up into orbit, presumably to reach their extra high horse, the above are the reasons why the post attracted trouble. They are not my opinions, which I keep to myself in this topic. Why it will continue to cause bother... 1. The photo. 2. Both barrels at close range. 3. Two differing sets of opinions coming from equally stubborn sets of people Again, not my opinion, but it's the facts. Thank you and good day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 JG stop being so Irish, sitting on the fence and say what you mean Still think both barrels at 10 feet would've made more of a mess. Something wrong somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Double discharge ? Or when he said "both" did he really mean "all" and the gun was one of those fancy rotary things.Must admit I dont shoot them because farmer likes them,as such I get pretty close which is tempting.However if one was ripping up my garden and trying to mate with my cat then it would get mini gunned too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 JG stop being so Irish, sitting on the fence and say what you mean Still think both barrels at 10 feet would've made more of a mess. Something wrong somewhere. No, it's a comfy fence that affords a good view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 whose to say, god forbid at that range....that he didnt miss with one barrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 It was being a pest, it was shot, perfectly legally and humanely....... so whats all the fuss about?! END OF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted June 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Well this topic certainly has got you all talking. Seems to be a lot of conflicting arguments here, I'll answer some of the questions that are coming up. 1. The distance from the end of the barrel to the hare was ten feet, the reason I took the shot so close was that I'd rather shoot him on the spot as opposed to letting him run off and trying to shoot him then. 2. The reason for discharging both barrels at the same time was out of instinct for use of a better word. If I'm shooting at birds I use the barrels separately, a hare on the run I'll use the barrels separately, but a hare sitting still regardless of the distance will get both cartridges at the same time. More shot, bigger spread, more damage to target area. This particular hare had caused hundreds of pounds worth of damage and I certainly wasn't going to give him the chance to do any more. 3. I'll be the first to admit that the time between me seeing the hare and me shooting it were fractions of a second, it was a very rushed shot and not to mention a badly placed one. I instead of hitting the center of the head I hit him on the front of the face taking off his nose and jaw. I'm presuming it was the cartridge in the right hand side barrel that did the damage, the other one was probably in the ground but it made no difference in the end, withing a few seconds he had stopped twitching and was stone dead. 4. The reason for the smiley face should have been obvious. You shoot a hare because your out hunting then your happy, but I shot a hare that had caused hundreds of pounds worth of damage to a beautifully landscaped garden, I was elated as was my friends Uncle. 5. The damage to the hare was all on the face, the meat was later eaten. I'm happy I posted the picture, it's good to get people talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 To clarify, my post was not one of criticism, it was purely observation. Reason being certain things on certain forums will set certain things in motion And my opinion is this, I can't say it matters really. Not my garden, not my hare, pest got controlled, nothing suffered. *shrugs* The sun will rise in the morning. Like I say, an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 If I was tasked to take out a certain animal,which of course is on the general license and did it in that manner I would be pretty happy with the result.One barrel or two. I dont see a single problem here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reedbradshaw Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Well this topic certainly has got you all talking.Seems to be a lot of conflicting arguments here, I'll answer some of the questions that are coming up. 1. The distance from the end of the barrel to the hare was ten feet, the reason I took the shot so close was that I'd rather shoot him on the spot as opposed to letting him run off and trying to shoot him then. 2. The reason for discharging both barrels at the same time was out of instinct for use of a better word. If I'm shooting at birds I use the barrels separately, a hare on the run I'll use the barrels separately, but a hare sitting still regardless of the distance will get both cartridges at the same time. More shot, bigger spread, more damage to target area. This particular hare had caused hundreds of pounds worth of damage and I certainly wasn't going to give him the chance to do any more. 3. I'll be the first to admit that the time between me seeing the hare and me shooting it were fractions of a second, it was a very rushed shot and not to mention a badly placed one. I instead of hitting the center of the head I hit him on the front of the face taking off his nose and jaw. I'm presuming it was the cartridge in the right hand side barrel that did the damage, the other one was probably in the ground but it made no difference in the end, withing a few seconds he had stopped twitching and was stone dead. 4. The reason for the smiley face should have been obvious. You shoot a hare because your out hunting then your happy, but I shot a hare that had caused hundreds of pounds worth of damage to a beautifully landscaped garden, I was elated as was my friends Uncle. 5. The damage to the hare was all on the face, the meat was later eaten. I'm happy I posted the picture, it's good to get people talking. well said mate, i think some folk do jump the gun a bit making their opinions heard by slating others. I remember a while back i USED to shoot i think my name on here was ratcatcherreed or something. i was about 13 when i shot my first rabbit. posted pictures on here and got slated because it was small....even though there was a picture underneath of me eating it i still got slated... because of that i stopped shooting rabbits and then all together because i felt i did wrong. only last year i picked up a gun again after a friend got my confidence back on targets he eventually took me for a shoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 01 Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Excuse my ignorance, so please don’t flame me, but I thought hares were subject to a game season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 In England Scotland and Wales, the Hare season is Jan 1 - Dec 31 Although, Hares cannot be sold from Mar 1 to July 31. If the land you shoot hares on is classed as moorland or unenclosed land and your permission on that land is through the landowner or occupier then a close season and other restrictions may legally apply on that land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 01 Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 In England Scotland and Wales, the Hare season is Jan 1 - Dec 31 Although, Hares cannot be sold from Mar 1 to July 31. If the land you shoot hares on is classed as moorland or unenclosed land and your permission on that land is through the landowner or occupier then a close season and other restrictions may legally apply on that land Thanks for that, I like to try and keep things straight in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 A far better solution than zapping a leveret at zero range would be to put a fence up to stop them coming into your garden in the first place. If this is such a "beautifully landscaped garden" that he suggests I would have thought this would have been an obvious solution..?? This guy seems proud of the fact he's blown it's head off. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I shot a rabbit once at that kind of range and the centre of its head was gone. Both ears were hanging from a thread of skin on either side. It's the best shot I'd ever taken, and there was no question that it was dead. I'd say that shot was as good as it gets for saving meat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 There is no close season on Hare and you can sell them all year round due to legislation brought in about a year ago i beleive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airssassin Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Nice clean kill. I bet the hare tasted good after the diet of expensive flora and forna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted June 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 A far better solution than zapping a leveret at zero range would be to put a fence up to stop them coming into your garden in the first place. If this is such a "beautifully landscaped garden" that he suggests I would have thought this would have been an obvious solution..?? This guy seems proud of the fact he's blown it's head off. Cat. Yeah I can see your point Cat, but the house is part of an old farm. The whole area is open plan so fences were out of the question as far as traffic was concerned. Frank 'my friends Uncle' had already fenced off a lot of the trees and flowers in the garden but it really detracted from the beauty of the garden it's self. After all you don't plant yourself a really nice garden just to cover and surround all of the plants and trees with wire fences. Killing the hares is the only way to stop them from destroying everything. It wouldn't be so bad if they were eating for food but they were just gnawing everything in sight for what seemed like the hell of it. In my opinion they are just like foxes, they kill for fun more than food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salisburykeeper Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 savage hmr you have to remember that on here everyone is a top class shooter and they never miss and never take 2 shots at anything as they always kill it first time! to remember that you will do well! Apart from that I dont think youve done a bad shot! although there are a lot of people on here who obviously eat hares heads! I like yourself prefer the body bit of which is still in tact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) Job done! Anything left of the roses? Edited June 3, 2008 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted June 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Job done! Anything left of the roses? There was ten rose bushes in total that were planted and the hares chewed down nine of them. Insult was added to injury when my friend was helping her Uncle do some gardening on the same day I shot the hare and accidentally lopped the last rose bush down with a petrol strimmer. :hmm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjaimz Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Looks like martins been about practicing for the 'ball in sock' championships again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny bagger Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 IF THATS THE BEST YOU CAN DO WITH "2" SHOTS FROM 10 FEET, THEN I SUGGEST YOU TAKE UP TIDDLY WINKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted June 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 IF THATS THE BEST YOU CAN DO WITH "2" SHOTS FROM 10 FEET, THEN I SUGGEST YOU TAKE UP TIDDLY WINKS Read the post, I was the first one to say it was a badly placed and rushed shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 QUOTE (Evil Elvis @ Jun 2 2008, 03:56 PM) QUOTE Oh dear, you can expect some flak for this Why? I don't see how anybody could get any pleasure from shooting a hare. Easy - Just add onions, carrots, mushrooms, couple of pints of stock and a drop of port!! Fantastic come back, best post I read on PW for a while Whenever I read a ost like that, it gives me a little hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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