james_roe Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Mate of mine said 'we are not puttin electric wire round the release pen as foxes associate the pain from the wire with the wire in snares so the snares will not catch as many foxes' any opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 c**k slap him he is talking utter s**te silly get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 and if a fox can see a snare its set rong any how i dye all my snared a black blue colur with trap dye and find it works best all i can say is he is talking utter poo and if you dont putaa elekie fence then their wont be any birds to shoot i can tell ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretboy111 Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Going to say, its not a must to have an electric fence around release pens. I have some on some of mine, and none on others. However i always have snares around each pen and surrounding areas. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 I always have a snare or two set around the perimeter of the pen. Never caught a fox in one in 16 yaers, don't know why I bother :unsure: I do tend to put rags soaked in renerdine/ creoste around the pen though as a deterrent. If nothing else it will make it very difficult for a fox hunting by scent for poults that jugging outside the wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 If you ever get a fox in your release pen you will really wish you had put electric fence round the outside !!!!. Portable electric fencers were the best thing invented. Lose a couple of hundred birds in a night and a fox hiding in your pen and a very unhappy boss................and tell me they arnt necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 if you dont put an electric fence around your pen you wont need to snare any foxes later in the year because there will be no birds around for them to eat, they will have already had them out of the pens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millomite Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 we dont electric fence ours, we snare them all. why just scare a fox off to eat your birds when they leave a pen, much better to catch him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 c**k slap him he is talking utter s**te silly get :o :yp: coffee all down me shirt :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M ROBSON Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 An electric fence is a must! You can't put enough snares around a large pen to fully protect it. It only takes one fox to get in on the first night you've got your poults in there and you can loose 200+ :unsure: Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 You chaps do as you see fit. I put 16,000 birds to wood so my release pens are on the large size. There is no way on this earth I would risk not using electric fox wire round the pens and rely on snares alone. All I can say is, before the advent of portable powerful battery electric fence units I used to get the odd fox in a pen since using electric wire it's now (touch wood) a rare occurrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catroofel Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 (edited) ah thats a good idea? a release pen with no electric fence is asking for trouble :unsure: once a fox is in a release pen you stand to loose all the birds in the given pen as he won't kill just to eat. granted it's a deterent but in my opinion a much better one than snares Edited June 18, 2008 by catroofel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOLLSEYES Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 BOL**CKS,Always try to have an electric fence.A fox will try digging under the wire of the pen and no amount of snares will stop Charlie,he will always find the weak spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 I have a better defence then an electric fence, get an Eastern European to walk the perimeter of your fence for 24hours a day. I like to see an electric fence around the pen as a extra security. But if you have a strong fence with no holes in it doesnt really matter does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 we dont use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I have a better defence then an electric fence, get an Eastern European to walk the perimeter of your fence for 24hours a day. I like to see an electric fence around the pen as a extra security. But if you have a strong fence with no holes in it doesnt really matter does it? we dont use them. Get onto the jobcenter then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 those who don't use them are ones who haven't had a fox in one yet. Unless your wire is very well dug in and even then you still run the risk you'll loose the lot over night. Snares round pens do catch but they are no guarantee by far the best option is electric fencing plus snares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryhawk Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 When i started keepering in the mid 80's, we never had electric fences. Before the birds went to wood my job was to cut hundreds of wooden pegs to be hammered in to the bottom of the wire. Over the top of that we used to lay tree trunks/big branches to add extra weight to stop Brock/Charlie digging under. Then a dosing of the creosote/diesel/used engine oil mix in a watering can. Never had a problem. BUT.....But.....Have only used electric fences since then, still use all the other methods as well. Overkill maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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