bignoel Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 are you allowed to use a semi at clay grounds .i have been told most clay clubs dont like it .enlighten me please thinking of going to north chaple sunday.noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) No problem :blink: I think they just like you to stick it in a gunslip between stands, as you can never really tell from a distance if a semi is loaded or not and it's a bit disconcerting to come round a corner and bump into a bloke waving a possibly loaded gun in your direction :blink: I use a pump action sometimes, that raises a few eyebrows :blink: Plenty of semis about though Edited June 26, 2008 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted June 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 O great stuff havent been on the clays for a while and looking forward t my visit down north chapel this sunday 6 of us a tenner a head winner takes all. good fun.cheers,noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 if you turn up with a semi youll get done indecent exposure........................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 if you turn up with a semi youll get done indecent exposure........................ On the ball today i see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 I always think if you have your semi or pump action on a sling in between stands it's just as effective in showing it cant be fired as holding an O/U broken over your arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Just recently iv seen several guns at different grounds get damaged by falling clay so i always put my gun in the slip when its not in use, that way its not risking a peice been taken out of it from falling clay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden22 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Plenty of semis about though No-one wants to hear about your disgusting weekend activities Chard . There should be no problem as long as you're sensible about it. And please be considerate and pick up your empties. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerico Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Am I the only person who thinks a loaded semi could fire through a slip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Am I the only person who thinks a loaded semi could fire through a slip No mate, you're not The only way to prove an auto is empty is to have the flags. And in answer to the original question, I used to take my auto to Cowdray clay ground no probs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 i have seen loads of people using them at clay grounds mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I use my AL391 (note I avoided saying "semi") all the time at claygrounds for sporting and skeet. People can get a bit sniffy on things like DTL though as you can end up showering them in empty shells when they are standing to your right. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Am I the only person who thinks a loaded semi could fire through a slip I've seen it happen as well. Fortunately it only made a slight mess of the guilty party's car door, and ruined the slip of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 CPSA regulations allow the use of both pumps and semi's in CPSA registered competition. 12g max, and max 2 carts loaded. Otherwise, no restriction. The "dislike" comes from trap shooters who stand in a line, and as the next on your right is preparing to shoot, gets one or two ejected carts flying over his/her stand space, sometimes distracting the next shooter to fire in their preparation. In the states, some comps / clubs have rules that you need to fix a deflector or collection bag to stop this, but I have never seen one in use in the UK. The CPSA safety recommendation is that a flag is used in semi's ( Napier Autosafe - on EBay), although it is wrong to say the only proof of an empty chamber is a flag in place as many autos allow the bolt to be latched back showing the "open and empty" chamber. Older design like the Remi 1100 always latched the bolt back on discharge of all cartridges, but more modern guns like the Ulrika do not do this, and either the flag needs to be put in place or the bolt manually latched ( most have a toggle latch to do this if required. Best practice is to have a flag in place when removing the gun from the sleeve, and to carry it upright, bolt latched back, with the empty chamber facing forward, if not in the sleeve. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-peter Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Am I the only person who thinks a loaded semi could fire through a slip so could an o/u a single barrell or a s/s/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-peter Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 CPSA regulations allow the use of both pumps and semi's in CPSA registered competition. 12g max, and max 2 carts loaded. Otherwise, no restriction. The "dislike" comes from trap shooters who stand in a line, and as the next on your right is preparing to shoot, gets one or two ejected carts flying over his/her stand space, sometimes distracting the next shooter to fire in their preparation. In the states, some comps / clubs have rules that you need to fix a deflector or collection bag to stop this, but I have never seen one in use in the UK. The CPSA safety recommendation is that a flag is used in semi's ( Napier Autosafe - on EBay), although it is wrong to say the only proof of an empty chamber is a flag in place as many autos allow the bolt to be latched back showing the "open and empty" chamber. Older design like the Remi 1100 always latched the bolt back on discharge of all cartridges, but more modern guns like the Ulrika do not do this, and either the flag needs to be put in place or the bolt manually latched ( most have a toggle latch to do this if required. Best practice is to have a flag in place when removing the gun from the sleeve, and to carry it upright, bolt latched back, with the empty chamber facing forward, if not in the sleeve. Jerry sorry clayman you are wrong the urika always latches back when empty. as do all the beretta's being a coach you should know this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Ive always used Remi's 1100's for coaching, and these ( and my own Nikko F1) always auto-latch back. I had a Ulrika in stock for sale recently, and my memory told me it was one of the type that has a toggle underneath to select the latch back, but if P P is a regular user of this gun - I stand corrected on the type identified as having this mechanism, but there is plenty about that do self close on completing the cycle as clients bring them - and I find them a pain compared with the simplicity of the Remi's mechanism. Thanks P-P, knowledge is always a good thing, but nobody's knowledge is complete or perfect - I stand corrected Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerico Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Am I the only person who thinks a loaded semi could fire through a slip so could an o/u a single barrell or a s/s/ Not broken showing they were not loaded they couldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 I put my o/u back in the bag between stands...whats the difference....who knows, and more importantly....who even cares what you have in the bag? ive never been challenged!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerico Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) Edit, wrong thread Edited July 3, 2008 by jerico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil smith Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Am I the only person who thinks a loaded semi could fire through a slip so could an o/u a single barrell or a s/s/ Not broken showing they were not loaded they couldn't. Im not aware of a slip that alows you to carry a gun broken in this way & would be interested to see it. Muzzle awareness is the secret to safety with any firearm, waving the barrel about is not clever & makes you look like an amateur & makes others very nervous, responsible shooters who are familiar with semi's should always carry them with the muzzle verticaly down or in a slip held in the same way, remember we have two feet but only one head. N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 In some clubs rules (its in mine) you MUST have one of those flags that goes into the breech of the semi (or pump) so the breech cant close properly and shows the gun is safe. I I dont know if you dont need it in some clubs and if you'd be allowed to just put the gun in the slip but the first time to the club I shoot I looked over the rules and it said you MUST have the flah breech thingy. Sorry mate cant remember what its called exactly lol but there quite good to shot your gun is safe, it hangs down out of the breech and is bright orange. Easily visible from a distance, like a O/U or S/S when open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 That'll be a breech flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 i only loaded 2 at a time and no bright flag latch stayed back when empty on my urika.and deffinatly never bagged it loaded ? no one had a problem with it .no one commented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 sorry clayman you are wrong the urika always latches back when empty.as do all the beretta's being a coach you should know this I'm glad you posted that PP, I was worried I was the only one reading it and thinking "Hang on a minute"... ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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