highseas Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 i have just got my first lot of .223 ammo and hmr ammo do i need to send off a letter like you would with rifle? the man in the shop was not verry helpfull at all (lakeland guns) named and shamed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 no he puts it on your ticket, and thats all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted August 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 thanks mate also i onley have 6 slots on my fac for ammo what do i do when these are all full? get a new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 They are just boxes, not slots. I can fit 6 purchases in each box with small print. When its full just send it off for a free replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 when your ticket is full phone them up.and they will get one out two you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 i have just got my first lot of .223 ammo and hmr ammo do i need to send off a letter like you would with rifle? the man in the shop was not verry helpfull at all (lakeland guns) named and shamed Unless your area is different to most, there is no requirement to notify HQ of a firearm purchase, only shotguns. The dealer that sold the rifle to you will notify HQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 In the boxes on your FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Strange you say that Bob... 2 of the local RFD's made sure I informed them myself when I purchased my last 2 rifles (I would always do so anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Strange you say that Bob... 2 of the local RFD's made sure I informed them myself when I purchased my last 2 rifles (I would always do so anyway) It's not a requirement in Essex or any other areas that I am aware of, and I have had dealings in most areas, to notify HQ of a purchase of a firearm from a dealer or another certificate holder. It is a requirement of the seller in both instances above to notify HQ. In the case of a shotgun, both parties, seller and buyer have to notify HQ. In the case of a shotgun or firearm sold to a dealer, neither parties are required to notify HQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Hmmm strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Hmmm strange Nothing strange about it, they are the legal requirements for carrying out transactions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Hmmm strange Nothing strange about it, they are the legal requirements for carrying out transactions. Bob , That is news to me .I am sure that you are absolutely right . But norfolk insists that all gun transactions are notified by both parties ,rifle ,or shotgun . Proberbly one of the anomalies that the different forces tend to create for their own use . It dosent bother me notifing them as it only takes 10 minutes and a first class stamp . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 (edited) Hmmm strange Nothing strange about it, they are the legal requirements for carrying out transactions. Bob , That is news to me .I am sure that you are absolutely right . But norfolk insists that all gun transactions are notified by both parties ,rifle ,or shotgun . Proberbly one of the anomalies that the different forces tend to create for their own use . It dosent bother me notifing them as it only takes 10 minutes and a first class stamp . Harnser . I'm sure that you are correct, most HQ's put their own interpretations on the law when it comes to firearms, but I have yet to come across an area that requires the buyer of a rifle to notify HQ, having said that, I have had no dealings with Norfolk HQ yet. As an aside, if I bought a rifle in Norfolk, how would I be expected to know that this is a requirement of your HQ, as it is not a requirement in mine? You may be interested to know that most HQ's now accept notification of transactions by email, the address for anyone in Essex is; firearms@essex.pnn.police.uk They do not acknowledge receipt of notification, so I would kep a copy of the email, as you would in the case of a posted notification. The notice scanned in my previous post came from Essex HQ, obviously. Edited August 9, 2008 by bob300w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 if i buy a rifle or shotgun,i have two tell H/Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 If I buy or sell I always stick a fax over to plod. All bases covered etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 In TV you have to let them know within 7 days of purchase of a rifle or shotgun, but they send you handfull of forms back with your licence so I just copy those. I used to just stick in the post, but was told you have to use registered by law otherwise, potentially the letter may not get though and you may have guns they don't know about - like last time they came round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 In TV you have to let them know within 7 days of purchase of a rifle or shotgun, but they send you handfull of forms back with your licence so I just copy those. I used to just stick in the post, but was told you have to use registered by law otherwise, potentially the letter may not get though and you may have guns they don't know about - like last time they came round Yep, where you do have to notify purchases, i.e. shotguns in Essex, they specify Registered or Recorded delivery, I find this odd when they post my FAC/SGC to me by ordinary mail. I would check if your HQ accepts email notifications, but definitely keep a copy for your own records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anschutz.17hmr Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 have to notify in lancashire,like somebody said earlier they send a load of notification forms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Bob, my FEO (Paul Quinton) now tells me that email notification is only acceptable if the notification contains the certificate holder's signature, e.g. a scanned copy of a signed letter I got picked up on that point last month, when previously a simple email sufficed. Now I just use the fax. Much quicker, and I get definitive proof of transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 BOTH parties have to notify the licensing dept on sale or transfer of a firearm or shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 In Devon & Cornwall both parties have to notify their issuing chief of police for section 1 firearms. This is printed on the back of my fac of fac under Notes. A If you: ii). If you purchase or acquire a firearm, the Firearms (amendment) Act 1997 requires you to notify the chief of police who issued your certificate etc. It is an offence for a person to fail to comply with these requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 In Devon & Cornwall both parties have to notify their issuing chief of police for section 1 firearms. This is printed on the back of my fac of fac under Notes. A If you: ii). If you purchase or acquire a firearm, the Firearms (amendment) Act 1997 requires you to notify the chief of police who issued your certificate etc. It is an offence for a person to fail to comply with these requirements. Yep, so does mine, it's a bog standard FF102, but the leaflet scanned above is sent out with renewals and overrides that. You conveniently omitted to mention that the end of the paragraph that you quoted also states "Details of the notifications required are available from your local police". To be quite honest, if in doubt, it would be wise just to drop HQ an email. Your butt is covered either way then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polski Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 I'm in Cheshire, I have to notify within 7 days any purchase or sale of firearms or shotguns. Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Bob, my FEO (Paul Quinton) now tells me that email notification is only acceptable if the notification contains the certificate holder's signature, e.g. a scanned copy of a signed letter I got picked up on that point last month, when previously a simple email sufficed. Now I just use the fax. Much quicker, and I get definitive proof of transmission. Quite posiibly in your case, but my relationship with HQ is very different to yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhunt Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 lakeland guns should have told you the requirements, when you purchase ammo ,the rfd will fill in your fac, cumbria force do NOT need to be informed. hope this helps happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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