Cosd Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I'm in the process of doing up my house (everything). I understand the number of guns (shotties) you keep can/is determined by the security in the house itself. Am I right to think this? If this is the case, what measures can I take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I think plods core concern is where you live and they then guage the likely threat to the measures you need to take. When plod arrived with me for first interview he had a print out of all the crime reports for a 1 mile radius and commented that someone had tried last year to nick the fiesta off next door's drive way. The normal measures are security locks on windows and decent front and back door - that will be fine. You can go red care etc and they may ask for that if you live in an iffy area or have lots of shooters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macperc Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) I was told by my FLO a couple of months ago that over 5 guns requires an alarm system to be fitted. Edited September 10, 2008 by Macperc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden22 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) . Edited November 19, 2008 by Maiden22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I've got a grade 2 listed house along with 4 shotties and a rifle. The house is a renovation property to the extent I had windows missing and security is decidedly dubious. Despite all this passed the FEO with no comments other than to poke his finger through a window pane that was missing I had put the cabinet in a cupboard that locks as well and am in a low crime area, so they do bear all sorts in mind in my case window locks aren't going to happen as the windows won't take them. Obviously security is getting better but I was expecting a nightmare and didn't get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly87 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 yep i used to have seven guns, when i came to renewing my SGC i was told to fit an alarm. She said that i should of had one on it ever since i brought that 7th gun but she didnt seem that bothered about it, but it did need fitting before i got my SGC back i think it varies all over the country on the different rules and regs, but i wouldnt of thought they would say how many guns you can hold by how safe your house is? if you can hold one gun then you should be able to hold many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 OK, seems no actual rule of thumb for security other than an approved gunsafe. I will take obvious precautions in and around the house. What abot cartridges, where do you guys keep them? In the safe with the gun/s? I tend to hide mine seperate from the guns; But am thinking of having a safe fitted seperately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden22 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) . Edited April 12, 2009 by Maiden22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden22 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) . Edited April 12, 2009 by Maiden22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 No legal requirement at all with cartridges. They prefer them to be stored separately from the guns and out of sight somehwere, but as far as I know you can walk around juggling them if you wish. I think it's because they're not a "controlled article/substance", or some such term. Most people probably keep them in the wardrobe / under the bed / slab in the boot just in case etc. Oh, Al4x, after reading your post I was wondering if you couldn't just PM your address across please. No reason, just out of curiosity you understand. Thanks, Robert fine hope you're good with Jack Russels though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) AL4X is the girl in the picture at the house with no windows? Edited September 10, 2008 by Cosd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I reckon she might have knocked said window out <wokka wokka> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 No legal requirement at all with cartridges. They prefer them to be stored separately from the guns and out of sight somehwere, but as far as I know you can walk around juggling them if you wish. I think it's because they're not a "controlled article/substance", or some such term. Most people probably keep them in the wardrobe / under the bed / slab in the boot just in case etc. Oh, Al4x, after reading your post I was wondering if you couldn't just PM your address across please. No reason, just out of curiosity you understand. Thanks, Robert fine hope you're good with Jack Russels though I reckon she might have knocked said window out <wokka wokka> She's welcome to knock my windows out any time she pleases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 AL4X is the girl in the picture at the house with no windows? sadly she's not, must say I have progressed and now have glass in all the windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden22 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) . Edited April 12, 2009 by Maiden22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevitree Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Not wanting to hijack this thread but its been a question on my mind since our break in recently I have a SGC and use a 12g s/s as owned by my father in law, I have been working on Mrs Kevitree to perhaps allow me the purchase of my own O/U. Now the theiving **** jemmied open the front door, so thats being replaced next week with a new ultra safe locking version as insurance recommended. An alarm system is being installed into the house by a police recognised installer. What do you think the chances of FLO authorising a cabinet and shotgun on these premises? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Have a look at this Home Office publication................Firearms Security Handbook 2005. Link............police.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/operational-policing/firearms-handbook.pdf It will answer most if not all of your questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 The gun cabinet is the most secure thing about this house lol! Yes we have proper locks on front and back doors, and the windows are all double glazed, but you cant beat 3mm of double sheet steel secured to frame of the house, oh and the fact the whole lot weights well over 120lbs! We couldn't actually carry the blasted thing up the stairs and ended up kind of levering it lol! My FEO was more concerned with how much I drank (I don't drink) at the weekend than the house security. Like he said, its my responsibility to secure the guns, not the police. If I cock it up, they take away my certificate and guns, quite simple really. Its nice to find someone in authority at last that actually places some trust in you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly87 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 O that was a fun question when my FEO asked on average how much you drink a week........ bare in mind this was my first year as a student my reply was would you like the answer in litres or gallons? luckily she had somewhat of a sense of humour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 O that was a fun question when my FEO asked on average how much you drink a week........ bare in mind this was my first year as a student my reply was would you like the answer in litres or gallons? luckily she had somewhat of a sense of humour! :P :mad: :mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Not wanting to hijack this thread but its been a question on my mind since our break in recently I have a SGC and use a 12g s/s as owned by my father in law, I have been working on Mrs Kevitree to perhaps allow me the purchase of my own O/U. Now the theiving **** jemmied open the front door, so thats being replaced next week with a new ultra safe locking version as insurance recommended. An alarm system is being installed into the house by a police recognised installer. What do you think the chances of FLO authorising a cabinet and shotgun on these premises? you should not have a problem,we were broken into once but never had any trouble with the feo nor do we have to have an alarm fitted to the house to keep four firearms and four shotguns in the house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I was told by my FLO a couple of months ago that over 5 guns requires an alarm system to be fitted. yes that is what my flo said, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 as stated earlier, the gun cabinet isnt necessary, but id reallllly recommend a trigger lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Regardless of having a fire arm in the house or not, I always aim to secure the house the max. (without makeing it look like a buncker) Remember locks are only to stop honest people entering! To stop "others" you need to consider other measures!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbald Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Couldnt agree more, watch this vid to see how quick a security lock can be opened, even quicker if youre not bothered about damage.A good quality alarm,security lighting will show the feo you are serious about security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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