Highlander Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 I have a CZ .17HMR varmint (I also have CZ in other cals for similar reasons) and for the money you can’t buy a better rifle. I’m constantly amazed by its accuracy, it’s a good looker, nice to handle and does the job. Zeroed mine when I first bought it and never since and it bounces around in the back of the truck pretty much every day! Yes there are better looking rifles (if you want to spend a lot more money) but if you want a tool for the job the CZ wins in my opinion. Love it! Buy one, you won't regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuck1 Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 I own a CZ Varmint in .22lr, cut down to 14inch barrel. I shot a CZ in 17HMR recently. I'm having one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Do the CZ's look and feel cheap even with the walnut stock? don't worry about the synthetic, i wouldnt touch that with a long pole H If you look hard enough there are some good examples out there .Here is the walnut stock off mine having a refurbishment CZ Varmint with Leup VXIII 6.5 x 20 x 40 Has for acurracy concerning the HMR cal then you'll be hard pressed to upstage a CZ with any of the good quality europeon manufacturers . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 I got mine 2nd hand with 2 mags, moderator and trigger kit for a couple of hundred quid. It's the cheapest gun I own and it gets the most use. You can shoot everything and anything with it and I am still very impressed with it. My advice is get something that's cheap and shoots straight - if mine had a nice stock etc I would be a complete nancy about taking it out and it getting knocked about or wet or muddy etc. If you want a nice tool for the job then a cheap CZ HMR is it. If you are precious and will want to stroke it then get an Annie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 CZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 if mine had a nice stock etc I would be a complete nancy about taking it out and it getting knocked about or wet or muddy etc. If you want a nice tool for the job then a cheap CZ HMR is it. If you are precious and will want to stroke it then get an Annie. Couldnt agree more. I went for a synth stock (the CZ silhouette) for my .22lr for the simple reason that I liked the wood-stocked version too much and knew it would get cosmetically ruined when properly used and that I would get a right sad on about it. A CZ it a tough, reliable tool. Not too fancy, but then who would want a high grade walnut stocked thing of beauty for crawling around in the mud and nettles knocking bunnies and crows over? Get a CZ, you'll love it. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 I went for the Sako quad after looking at the CZ american & varmint i found the stock very poor quality the wood really cheap looking, : but the CZ"s are a hell of a lot cheaper :blink: :blink: :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 I went for the Sako quad after looking at the CZ american & varmint i found the stock very poor quality the wood really cheap looking, : but the CZ"s are a hell of a lot cheaper :blink: :blink: :blink: blackbird,my CZ American 17HMR was a lovely rifle and had a stunning looking walnut stock on it!Cant understand what your saying about the `wood cheap looking`! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 If you want a workhorse rifle with repeatable accuracy, buy a CZ. If you want a gimmick, buy a Quad. How many Quad owners on here and other forums have whinged about POI shift when the barrel gets knocked? My two CZs get treated pretty roughly, but they shoot perfectly. And I understand that Edgar Bothers is releasing a 10-shot mag for the CZ .17 HMR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 that can't come soon enough, must say another bargain cz varmint here, no complaints at all gets thrown about and has certainly accounted for a lot of vermin so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horrocks Posted October 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Why the varmint? I'm lost with this, is it the extra weight that makes people buy them? does it make the rifle steadier? H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 A varmint barrel can cope with having a fair few shots in quick succession put through it before the POI wanders, as there is more mass to absorb the heat. However varmint barrels take an age to cool down, and weigh a lot more. I believe the CZ 452 Varmint has a flat-bottomed stock, should you want to shoot it off a bag. Personally I like the fact that my CZ weighs next to nothing. I can carry it all day, and it balances perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plinker Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 (edited) i am surprised no one has mentioned the cz trigger they are dire, could not get rid of mine quick enough (yes it did have a brooks kit) they are good for the money but if the factory put a decent trigger in them and say charged an extra £50 they would be far better,some of the hmr have dodgy crowns also. Edited October 7, 2008 by plinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 i am surprised no one has mentioned the cz trigger they are dire, could not get rid of mine quick enough (yes it did have a brooks kit)they are good for the money but if the factory put a decent trigger in them and say charged an extra £50 they would be far better,some of the hmr have dodgy crowns also. A brooks trigger kit comes with multiple options if you weigh up what spring to use with what brass farrell .All I can say is your example was poorly fitted Mine is superb but i'll admit its not in the same league as the weihauch HJ60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 if mine had a nice stock etc I would be a complete nancy about taking it out and it getting knocked about or wet or muddy etc. If you want a nice tool for the job then a cheap CZ HMR is it. If you are precious and will want to stroke it then get an Annie. Couldnt agree more. I went for a synth stock (the CZ silhouette) for my .22lr for the simple reason that I liked the wood-stocked version too much and knew it would get cosmetically ruined when properly used and that I would get a right sad on about it. A CZ it a tough, reliable tool. Not too fancy, but then who would want a high grade walnut stocked thing of beauty for crawling around in the mud and nettles knocking bunnies and crows over? Get a CZ, you'll love it. ZB I like wood but you can batter it about more than you think and i'll never change to PLASTIC ****e .Part of my enjoyment is replenishing the scratches and dents out .........each to their own . I have no recollection of a forend QD stud being ripped out of a wooden stock but have repaired one that came out of a plastic one and countless forums have plenty examples of the same thing happening . Imagine having your pride and joy slung over your shoulder only for the foreend stud to give way when you happen to be walking across a dairy concrete farmyard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 (edited) I like the CZ American better than the Sako myself. The Quad is well made, but I find it very bulky compared to my CZ. Last time I did a 100 yard zero check next to Dirty Harry (with his quad) there was no visible advantage to the quad. Both will shoot 5p sized groups at that range with ease. That said, Harry seems to think my gun feels like a toy. He's bigger than me so maybe the bigger gun is more comfortable to him? I like the smaller CZ myself. With a brookes trigger kit fitted (about a tenner and an hours work) the CZ shoots lovely Edired to say that the standard american barrel is fine. The varmint is pretty heavy. With factory ammo not being perfect, unless you're going to be firing off tens of shots as fast as you can load the american will be a better bet IMO The 16" barrel works fine too, that's what I have. If you're scared about the trigger, look into a CZ453, they have a set trigger which if it's the same as the CZ527 unit, is extremely good! Edited October 8, 2008 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plinker Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 i am surprised no one has mentioned the cz trigger they are dire, could not get rid of mine quick enough (yes it did have a brooks kit)they are good for the money but if the factory put a decent trigger in them and say charged an extra £50 they would be far better,some of the hmr have dodgy crowns also. A brooks trigger kit comes with multiple options if you weigh up what spring to use with what brass farrell .All I can say is your example was poorly fitted Mine is superb but i'll admit its not in the same league as the weihauch HJ60 tried all the multiples of the kit ,in the end i got fed up with it. a second hand hw60j came along for £350 and it was so much better all round the cz had to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horrocks Posted October 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Anybody got a HW 60J they can comment on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 They're not such a common gun. There are three guys on here with opinions on them, and the general outlook is good. I've not heard many bad words about them. Personally I think the CZ 453 is a good idea if you're worried about the trigger. The HW is a good gun. but you said earlier that you don't like the look of it. It would be a shame to have to compromise when there is such a wide range available, many not even mentioned yet. There's always a used Anschutz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horrocks Posted October 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Or just a Sako quad hunter and a few months spent begging for food at epping tube station. Well, thats probably going to happen anyway.... I'm definately getting the Hunter Quad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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