Santlache Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 THE TRAGIC LOSS OF LIFE ON BOTH SIDES OF A WAR IS VERY SAD INDEED BUT ASK YOURSELF HOW DID THIS ALL START. It started in 1948 when the Zionist State of Israel was formed, and they ethnically cleansed the Palestinian people from THEIR land. Google Dier Yassin Never forget, Israel was founded on Terrorism. For the record the Palestinian Jews wanted nothing whatsoever to do with Zionism, it was the European and American Jews who migrated to Israel who brought that evil with them - the Ashkenazi. It is all very sad, the tragic loss of life on both sides, but is is Zionism which drives Israel to commit such crimes and Hamas and Hizbollah etc are just a result of 60 years of Zionist crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santlache Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 do you think you're actually doing anything constructive by opposing Zionism on here? I just posted a video link, calling for an end to the bloodshed of innocent people. Since then I have only defended myself and will continue to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA1Gunner Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) it all stems from Zionism and Israel. So lets av this right, are you saying that radical izlam that murders and kills innocent people, all stem from Israel. Izlam a religion of peace, don't make me laugh. If we in the West don't sort out izlam, we will have major problem on our hands. Just for the record, I am Church Of England, Santlache do you happen to be moslem or are you one of these lefty PC idiots. Edited January 14, 2009 by SA1Gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdfish Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Forgetting Zinoism and it supposed evil's for a minute, could you answer me these questions without foaming at the mouth. Q. Do you think hamas when launching rockets into israel intended do so with so little loss of life? Q. Why dont they stop sending rockets into Israel? Q. Are you a bit nutty. Just by posting a quote or song does not constitute a rational or valid arguement JDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Well I actually misread the title and thought someone was doing a charity record for GAZZA. Fog on the tyne is all mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Anyone can feel passionate about the subject matter to hand in the middle east, however, the rational will work out that after a few glasses of wine and blowing some steam off on here: (1). nothing will change for the people of Palenstine or Israel no matter how many convincing arguments are put forward on here - unfortunately none of the power brokers in the USA or the Middle East are PW Members or readers (2). falling out with fellow shooters over it would be pointless having regard to (1) above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 unfortunately none of the power brokers in the USA or the Middle East are PW Members or readers Can you prove that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussman Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Never forget, Israel was founded on Terrorism. Not entirely true. Both the the action you mention and the bombing of the King David Hotel were commited by the Stern gang, a renegade group of thugs whose actions were condemded by the mainstream Jewish groups such as the Haganah. To sum up, it's a nasty conflict that involves innocent people on both sides being killed because of their politicians and religious extremists. THE END Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santlache Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 it all stems from Zionism and Israel. So lets av this right, are you saying that radical izlam that murders and kills innocent people, all stem from Israel. Yes, Radical Islam all stems from Israel and the illegal occupation of Palestinian land. Bin Laden told us so himself. It also stems from the double standards of the West. Saddam breaches three UN Security Council Resolutions and refuses to comply, then gets invaded for his sins. Israel at the last count are in breach of over 60 UN Security Council Resolutions, yet nothing whatsoever is done. It's the double standards and it's also the same with Iran. Except at least Iran have an open Nuclear programme and allow Inspectors to visit, unlike Israel's who haven't even admitted they have nuclear weapons, let alone allow inspectors to check them out. As for your racist tone on Islam, I'll let you deal with them yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santlache Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Not entirely true. Both the the action you mention and the bombing of the King David Hotel were commited by the Stern gang, a renegade group of thugs whose actions were condemded by the mainstream Jewish groups such as the Haganah. To sum up, it's a nasty conflict that involves innocent people on both sides being killed because of their politicians and religious extremists. THE END Stern Gang and Irgun were Israeli Terrorist Groups - correct. However, if there were such a renegade group of thugs that you claim, how come two of their leaders went on to become Prime Minister of Israel ? Hardly renegade groups, they were the mainstream seeking the formation of the Zionist State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Yes, Radical Islam all stems from Israel and the illegal occupation of Palestinian land. Bin Laden told us so himself. It also stems from the double standards of the West. Saddam breaches three UN Security Council Resolutions and refuses to comply, then gets invaded for his sins. Israel at the last count are in breach of over 60 UN Security Council Resolutions, yet nothing whatsoever is done. It's the double standards and it's also the same with Iran. Except at least Iran have an open Nuclear programme and allow Inspectors to visit, unlike Israel's who haven't even admitted they have nuclear weapons, let alone allow inspectors to check them out. As for your racist tone on Islam, I'll let you deal with them yourself. You, Sir, are a tool. At least in the infidel West you have the freedom to spout this bigoted rubbish, less so in your beloved Iran... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussman Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Give it a rest. It dosen't concern us. These topics are boring and repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Santlache either you're coming on here just to wind everyone up (and it appears to be working) for a laugh OR you're a Bin Liner sympathiser. Either way you're unlikely to be welcome on here for long as this is a forum for fieldsports enthusiasts NOT terrorists (there are plenty of other sicko websites where you can go for that). In other words why don't you take the walk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Oh well if bin laden said so thats ok then cos he is a stand up decent guy Mr hussain was doing a teeny bit more than breaching resolutions ya know,like gassing whole villages,murders by the thousand,etc etc If bin laden and saddam are your main witnesses...your ### Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA1Gunner Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 As for your racist tone on Islam, I'll let you deal with them yourself. Racist, I will tell you what racist is fella, a racist is being a part of a religion who would kill and murder innocent people in the name of that religion and they do not except anyone or any other religion except for their own. I have no problems with, Roman Catholics, Jews, Sikhs, Hindus, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses or in fact any other religion who is tolerant of others, but radical izlam does not tolerate anything but itself, that is racist. Radical izlam makes Adolf Hitler and the Reich look like public schoolboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 As for your racist tone on Islam, I'll let you deal with them yourself. Racist, I will tell you what racist is fella, a racist is being a part of a religion who would kill and murder innocent people in the name of that religion and they do not except anyone or any other religion except for their own. I have no problems with, Roman Catholics, Jews, Sikhs, Hindus, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses or in fact any other religion who is tolerant of others, but radical izlam does not tolerate anything but itself, that is racist. Radical izlam makes Adolf Hitler and the Reich look like public schoolboys. Also, the People's Front of Judea... Splitters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishman307 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Quote trussman, Give it a rest. It dosen't concern us. These topics are boring and repetitive Couldnt agree more, Gazza has had hundreds of chances but as soon as he gets out he is back on the Booze, I love to see am man enjoying a drink, So leave him alone, Edited January 14, 2009 by fishman307 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santlache Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Forgetting Zinoism and it supposed evil's for a minute, could you answer me these questions without foaming at the mouth. Q. Do you think hamas when launching rockets into israel intended do so with so little loss of life? Q. Why dont they stop sending rockets into Israel? Q. Are you a bit nutty. Just by posting a quote or song does not constitute a rational or valid arguement JDF 1. Yes, Hamas rockets are a direct result of Israeli aggression, the theft of land and the injustices perpetrated against the people of Palestine. How else are they supposed to fight back against the illegal Israeli occupation and continued aggression ? Have you seen some of these illegal settlers - They are as radical and extremist in their beliefs as Bin Laden and his cronies. 2. If Israel were to comply with the 60 odd UN Securiity Council resolutions stacked up against them and stopped building illegal settlements on Palestinian Land, then perhaps the Hamas Rockets would stop. Indeed, it was Israel which broke the current ceasefire which started the rockets again The Arab League tabled a motion two years ago and stated that if Israel were to withdraw from the Occupied Territories to the 1967 borders, as they have been ordered by countless UN Resolutions, they would reign in groups like Hamas and Hizbollah. Israel have out and out refused to comply. 3. Not at all, I just want to see fair play in the region and Israel brought to boot for it's crimes. If they were it would numb the effect of 99% of radical Islam's claims. Yet we in the West allow Israel to get away with it, and the disproportionate actions recently seen by Israel will only fuel more trouble if we don't act to rectify the solution. It's a vicious circle and Israel holds all the cards to the solution, but Zionism simply won't allow them, because they believe all the land from the Nile to the Euphraties belongs to Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaBravo Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 They told hamas to stop firing rockets... they didnt stop so they got some love from above, and some ground pounding... Im on Israel's side for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santlache Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Quote trussman, Give it a rest. It dosen't concern us. These topics are boring and repetitive Not so, this topic is what caused some people to blow up the tube and buses in London, because they feel their voice is not being heard. The attrocities caused by these people are dwarfed by the crimes and murder being committed by Israel on the Palestinian people, yet we stand here and let Israel get away with it. This is why radical Islam exists. Israel gets 10 million dollars a DAY from the US, and this transposes itself into the latest military technology, which they use against the Palestinian people as they build more illegal settlements and steal more of their land. Hamas fire a few primitive rockets in self defence against this continued Israeli aggression yet you seem to be up in arms over it. What else are they supposed to do, allow Israel to steal all of their land and ethnically cleanse all their people as the world stands by and does nothing ? Israel is the aggressor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santlache Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Im on Israel's side for this Then you are very misguided and have fallen for Israel's sleek PR machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaBravo Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 or i dont really give that much of a toss... but i like the peace through superior firepower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA1Gunner Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Santlache, You are one of the most misguided and brainwashed tossers, I have ever come across. If I were you, I wouldn't go into many boozers in the UK spouting your **** about defending the cowards from hamas and those murdering scumbags from radical izlam. This is my last post on this topic, if you want to carry on, you will have to PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Israel gets 10 million dollars a DAY from the US, and this transposes itself into the latest military technology, which they use against the Palestinian people as they build more illegal settlements and steal more of their land. I'm not taking sides but when we see news reports of the Israelis removing (with force) settlers from the west bank, what's going on there? Hamas fire a few primitive rockets in self defence against this continued Israeli aggression yet you seem to be up in arms over it. Would you be happy with people lobbing 'primitive rockets' several miles at your home town? Nial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Not so, this topic is what caused some people to blow up the tube and buses in London, because they feel their voice is not being heard. The attrocities caused by these people are dwarfed by the crimes and murder being committed by Israel on the Palestinian people, yet we stand here and let Israel get away with it. This is why radical Islam exists. Israel gets 10 million dollars a DAY from the US, and this transposes itself into the latest military technology, which they use against the Palestinian people as they build more illegal settlements and steal more of their land. Hamas fire a few primitive rockets in self defence against this continued Israeli aggression yet you seem to be up in arms over it. What else are they supposed to do, allow Israel to steal all of their land and ethnically cleanse all their people as the world stands by and does nothing ? Israel is the aggressor. And Sigourney Weaver is the Gatekeeper. Who you gonna call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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