rarms Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Hang on folks. This woman discharged a potentially lethal weapon towards a group of children for God's sake. She could have killed one of them or, worse, killed some poor ****** walking past. Two wrongs DO NOT make a right - she so totally deserves to be sentenced custodially. However can any law abiding shooter condone her actions? I have no doubt she was stressed etc but that shouldn't be viewed as an excuse. Sorry for sounding harsh but she has done lawful shooting untold damage and given the anti gun lobby even more ammunition (excuse the pun) to attack us with PP BANG ON, she should have got a longer sentence IMHO. She fired in a public place at the first group of people she came into contact with because she 'thought' they were the ones who put a pot of liquid on her sons car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Pieman Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 I wonder what would have happened if she had been able to gain access to a shotgun or rifle, rather than an air weapon The fact she is a teacher makes it worse in my eyes - she is someone young people look up to as a role model. If she hadn't been punished it would look to youngsters as 'acceptable' behaviour. PP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 certainly everyone who buys the Guardian. Lurch me old mate.... I buy the Guardian... Damn good read and the sports pages are excellent. One or two multi syllabic words but what the heck I can handle them. Certainly more stimulating than Dear Deardrie or 17 year old Mandy from Bradford with her Tits out. By the way I understand the editor likes to shoot and is quite a keen angler and Hunter. I know lets go and lynch the ****** FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 how far does a pellet from an air pistol richochet off the ground if fired downwards (i.e. into the ground) . potentially lethal my ar*e.group of children ? err not really if the press is to be believed.two little sh1ts who have previous for robbery,oh no let me guess,the poor little mites were on the way to a tofu knitting class ? so tony martin did the shooting community a whole load of damage by his actions-i think not. if she had used a kettle full of boiling water it would have had more chance of hurting a passer by.how does this equate to giving law abiding shooing folk a bad name ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 how far does a pellet from an air pistol richochet off the ground if fired downwards (i.e. into the ground) . potentially lethal my ar*e.group of children ? err not really if the press is to be believed.two little sh1ts who have previous for robbery,oh no let me guess,the poor little mites were on the way to a tofu knitting class ?so tony martin did the shooting community a whole load of damage by his actions-i think not. if she had used a kettle full of boiling water it would have had more chance of hurting a passer by.how does this equate to giving law abiding shooing folk a bad name ? Depends on the ground and the angle, as a kid I got caught by a BSA meteor in the knee from a ricochet and I bled like ****. The fact is she was not shooting out lights etc which is massively irresponsable in its self but she was threatening humans with a fire arm she did wrong and I have no doubt the kids did wrong but two wrong dont make a right they make things even worse. she will probably be out in 3 months and fortunately she will no longer be allowed to own or purchase air rifles or pistols. People like her do nothing for the cause of honest law abiding shooters. Neither do people who support her for that matter. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 >be allowed to own or purchase air rifles or pistols. By the sounds of it she only had hem for 'self protection' what kind of a teacher is she!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 The Police and Prosecution accepted that the "air" (gas pellet charged) pistol was not loaded and Mrs Walker actually discharged an empty pistol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Yes we all know the Justice system and policing of the community is in imbalance and sometimes seems completely inept and inequitable but if we all took the law into our own hands in this way there would be Anarchy. FM. Don't you think that the way in which certain sectors of the "community" blatantly flout every law in the land is already anarchic anyway then Mike ?? It’s a point I regularly make, the “kids” involved in this incident sound like real little angels, criminals out on the streets and nothing there to realistically deter them from continuing their criminal activities. Sounds like anarchy to me. That said please don't think I'm condoning the teachers actions as it really doesn't do our cause any favours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Top and bottom of it is that if the little ****ts willingly step outside of society rules then they forfiet the right to be protected by those rules strange thing is I was listening to a report from Liverpool today whereby ANOTHER mrs walker!! who was robbed was asked by the police (I KID YOU NOT) to investigate the robbery herself ??jeez the mind boggles if this is true then what the hell is the point of provarocating over pompous holier than thou virtues knowing that in REALITY ie not the perfect world, that the police when it suits are only too willing to allow self policing ask any poor sod who has been burgled what the response was? ie here's your number mate we cant be *****? by the way here is a more in depth article if you aint seen it http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1546915,00.html cheers Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Oh, I've not been banned then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Oh, I've not been banned then! ? Why what have you done ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 I feel I've gone a bit far! I'm so passionate about the topic that I really should just bite my tongue and say nowt as I'm clearly incapable of reasoned debate on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Can't say I have read anything that deserves a yellow card let alone a red one. If you are interested, my sentiments are with the woman who discharged an empty air pistol into the ground when she felt at the end of her tether. Had she attacked them with a baseball bat and fractured one of their skulls she would probably have got probation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ady Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 sorry but as far as im concerned any airweapon used to harm or intimidate a person should be classed as a firearm.just think of the 2 year old killed last month.how are we to get respect for our sport with people acting as they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Had she attacked them with a baseball bat and fractured one of their skulls she would probably have got probation. Quite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Had she attacked them with a baseball bat and fractured one of their skulls she would probably have got probation. Quite so, when you consider how many people must get their heads caved in by baseball bats and pickaxe handles it's a wonder they aren't banned or only available to licence holders who have to keep them locked in a cabinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 What she did was wrong, but, had one of those thugs fired an airgun at HER, I have no doubt whatsoever that he would have been given nothing like a six months prison sentence. In fact I doubt very much that he would have even been arrested. This is where the whole thing falls apart. She is harassed by these ******** and retaliates……….and gets six months. They have been committing crimes for years…..and get off scot-free. Regardless of what she did there was no need for this **** of a judge to hand down such a severe sentence, on what was her first, and only offence…….or was he given some sort of guidance from somewhere else…………. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGJON Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Maybe if she had told the police that they ran away at more than 30 mph they would have done more... They only seem to be interested in nicking the motorist these days :< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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