death from below Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 SHOT SHOT - Funniest reply I've seen on here for quite a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyr8 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 could not agree more.always thought a perigrins diet was pigeon for breakfast,dinner n tea.buzzards eat a lot of carrion.have seen the effects of corvids and squirrels on nesting song birds first hand,infact was approached by an acctive member of the rspb to shoot as many of these pests as possible at the golf club were i worked.no buzzards no falcons just kestrals.someone put a petition on a fishing forum i use calling for the ban of a plan to introduce otters into a nature reserve,thinks this will whipe out his course fishing.dilluded and selfish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 could not agree more.always thought a perigrins diet was pigeon for breakfast,dinner n tea.buzzards eat a lot of carrion.have seen the effects of corvids and squirrels on nesting song birds first hand,infact was approached by an acctive member of the rspb to shoot as many of these pests as possible at the golf club were i worked.no buzzards no falcons just kestrals.someone put a petition on a fishing forum i use calling for the ban of a plan to introduce otters into a nature reserve,thinks this will whipe out his course fishing.dilluded and selfish. I'm under no illusions, some gamebirds are taken by raptors, especially Goshawks, Hen Harriers and Peregrines, but I'd rather have them in the countryside. They were here before game rearing started. They belong here. End of story. They also take racing pigeons If somebody is stupid enough to release a load of Speckled Jims into a Pergrines territory, they're going to get whacked. Tough **** Oh how we laaaaaaaaarfed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) Right I'm going to start a petition to get racing pigeons classed as vermin That should solve the problem once and for all Edited June 30, 2009 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 To my (maybe tiny) mind theres only one main culprit guilty of the massacre of songbirds in this country-as more and more people move to the countryside wherein lies the breeding hub of the bird population they bring these sodding things with them and think its funny when the furry ******** bring home "gifts" of fledgelings-if i had my way all cats would be required by law to wear a bell-something akin to big ben would be my suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractorboy Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 To my (maybe tiny) mind theres only one main culprit guilty of the massacre of songbirds in this country-as more and more people move to the countryside wherein lies the breeding hub of the bird population they bring these sodding things with them and think its funny when the furry ******** bring home "gifts" of fledgelings-if i had my way all cats would be required by law to wear a bell-something akin to big ben would be my suggestion. and any CAT found not wearing a bell can be legally exterminated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Have a sneaky feeling that lanwadebob has posted on her before . Same subject matter may be a different name .Harnser . funnily enough having registered at the other pigeon fanciers site I got a rather rude e-mail through from them last week seems like they got hacked as they had a rather large male appendage in the shoutbox on their forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 and any CAT found not wearing a bell can be legally exterminated Is that true? If so, I would be intrested to see the revelent act/law etc. Cheers (And yes, I hate cats) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 no its not true before anyone gets carried away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Have a sneaky feeling that lanwadebob has posted on her before . Same subject matter may be a different name .Harnser . Yes that would be BellEndBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing-Bong Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Just thought I'd add my tuppence worth, as I'd only just noticed the thread. Firstly I should say that I am a falconer off many years experience and have studied birds since I was a child. I fly only peregrines now, I have flown hawks in the past but they don't rock my boat. If you feel that this makes me biased or grounded in my opinion then thats down to the individual. Yes, we are seeing an increase in populations of raptors but this in no way has an effect on the populations of sonbirds. It's actually the increase in prey items available that causes this rise, which is down to better land management and more sympathetic methods of farming. If we remove the emotive issue and look to another scenario in Africa, if there is a reduction in the populations of zebra and wildebeeste then the first species which suffers as a result of this is the big cats, namely lions. Predators are a natural barometer to the ecosystem around them. Being top of the food chain makes them highly sensitive to fluctuations in any part of the food chain below them, no food, no predators. As an example, can any one remember the plague of greenfly in the mid seventies, the next year we had equal numbers of Ladybirds, the aphids predator. So no songbirds, no predators. I must say that I get fed up with the shooting press in their campaigns to have raptors controlled in as much that I thought we had moved away from the draconian days of old whereby anything with tooth or claw has to go. It is natures job to balance the equations and it's only when man gets involved that this equilibrium gets disturbed. Then I'm afraid that, yes I do agree with control in some cases ( I've been a pest controller for ten years) but not in this instance. It's our choice that we put thousands of game birds into the countryside each year, just the same as it is the fisheries owner to fill some puddle with thousands of carp and the moan if mr. otter see's it as a fast food outlet. Racing pigeons are prey items and the pigeon fancier chooses to release them into a wild environment week after week, it's a no brainer. You wouldn't take your prize cow and let it go in the seringetti plains would you. I could go on for ages as this subject incenses me, I agree with the observations in this thread that corvids, squirrels and cat's do more damage. I beleive that in some states of Australia it is illegal to allow your cat loose for this reason. So, I guess that's a no from me to your self centered, scientifically flawed and totally selfish survey. Blimey, only my second post as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggone Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I've never read such a load of twisted **** in my life. Anybody who signs that is a ******* retard. You can shove that right up your ******* khyber and wipe your **** on it. I would respectfully suggest that having that **** on this forum labels us all as a load of redneck lawbreakers, just what the antis want to see. This will be some whingeing band of pigeon fanciers. They break the law routinely as it is, persecuting raptors, now they want it made legal. **** off No need to mince words Chard, just come out and say what you think. I totally agree as it happens. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 No need to mince words Chard, just come out and say what you think. I totally agree as it happens.Andy There's a fine line between pigeon-fancying and illegal deviant sexual activity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggone Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 There's a fine line between pigeon-fancying and illegal deviant sexual activity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Just thought I'd add my tuppence worth, as I'd only just noticed the thread. Firstly I should say that I am a falconer off many years experience and have studied birds since I was a child. I fly only peregrines now, I have flown hawks in the past but they don't rock my boat. If you feel that this makes me biased or grounded in my opinion then thats down to the individual. Yes, we are seeing an increase in populations of raptors but this in no way has an effect on the populations of sonbirds. It's actually the increase in prey items available that causes this rise, which is down to better land management and more sympathetic methods of farming. If we remove the emotive issue and look to another scenario in Africa, if there is a reduction in the populations of zebra and wildebeeste then the first species which suffers as a result of this is the big cats, namely lions. Predators are a natural barometer to the ecosystem around them. Being top of the food chain makes them highly sensitive to fluctuations in any part of the food chain below them, no food, no predators. As an example, can any one remember the plague of greenfly in the mid seventies, the next year we had equal numbers of Ladybirds, the aphids predator. So no songbirds, no predators. I must say that I get fed up with the shooting press in their campaigns to have raptors controlled in as much that I thought we had moved away from the draconian days of old whereby anything with tooth or claw has to go. It is natures job to balance the equations and it's only when man gets involved that this equilibrium gets disturbed. Then I'm afraid that, yes I do agree with control in some cases ( I've been a pest controller for ten years) but not in this instance. It's our choice that we put thousands of game birds into the countryside each year, just the same as it is the fisheries owner to fill some puddle with thousands of carp and the moan if mr. otter see's it as a fast food outlet. Racing pigeons are prey items and the pigeon fancier chooses to release them into a wild environment week after week, it's a no brainer. You wouldn't take your prize cow and let it go in the seringetti plains would you. I could go on for ages as this subject incenses me, I agree with the observations in this thread that corvids, squirrels and cat's do more damage. I beleive that in some states of Australia it is illegal to allow your cat loose for this reason. So, I guess that's a no from me to your self centered, scientifically flawed and totally selfish survey. Blimey, only my second post as well. Nice darts Like the analogy contained therein; I did have the mental visualisation of decoying a rape field for prize beef and thinking I would need a bigger shooting truck, BBQ as well as more bread rolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyr8 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 would like to see proof of just how many racing pigeons are supposed to be taken by raptors.he complains about perrigrins moving into towns.not got anything to do with the plagues of ferral pigeons has it.they were here long before us,let them alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) Control the numbers of Magpies and Crows and you will soon have plenty of songbirds, including enough to hatch cuckoo eggs. http://www.songbird-survival.org.uk/ will probably be at the CLA Gamefair. Edited July 1, 2009 by rjimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing-Bong Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Let's take the fore mentioned Cuckoo. To preserve this non indigenous bird we have to look at why the numbers are declining, here and in Africa. The extensive draining of reedbeds during WW11 to increase food supply probably has more to due with it than any other factor, apart from Spaniads using lime sticks and mist nets to trap migratory songbirds for the table. So, come on Lenwadenob, oops, sorry, bob, whats the prefered nest site of the Cuckoo.........................Reed Warbler. It's only now that we as a nation are trying to address the problem with the recreation of reedbeds, but not for the parasitic cuckoo, for the Bittern, Marsh Harrier, Bearded ***, etc and etc. I think that people should get their facts right before jumping on a band wagon because it gives them credibility to pursue their own aims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing-Bong Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) Ohh, I can't say Bearded ***, what about Long Tailed ***. Curious. Edited July 2, 2009 by Bing-Bong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) If you Google "Save and Protect British Songbird Society", you just get a load of links to freak pigeon fancier sites. There is no such "Society", it's just these weird scum hiding behind that clumsy name and trying to fool all the old Grannys into signing their freakshow petition. Incidentally, I noticed on one of these weirdo sites that one of them, who used his full name as a forum ID, was bragging about how he poisoned Peregrine chicks locally, to protect his flying rats. Think we'll take a closer look at him They really are a bunch of sad *********. The sites are full of wailing comments about how they need to get the public on their side and get behind their wipe out raptor schemes. They haven't got the sense to see that Joe Public would rather see raptors flying in the wild than their stinking vermin Edited July 2, 2009 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I realise that this doesn't contribute much of intellectual value to the debate, but Jeez, would you look at that! :look: That is proper, 100% serial killer material and no mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonboy1 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 looks more like 'manmadebob' to me, if you look very carefully you can just make out the bolts in his neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 looks more like 'manmadebob' to me, if you look very carefully you can just make out the bolts in his neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Are Racing /Homing Pigeons, or whatever you care to call these vermin, are they protected? On a few of the quiet days I have had out shooting, some nice men come along with big wicker baskets and let loads of them out in a layby next to my shoot. They fly around for 10 minutes or so, then promptly land on the crop, thus coming under my jurisdiction, that of pest control. Anyone know the legalities here, as there is rarely a Raptor around to do the job. I did ask Jeeves, but he could not help. I shall not disclose the farmers advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 simply put it is bad form to shoot them however if they're feeding they're not any good as racers so the odd married one getting shot isn't really a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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