Baldrick Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Dammn, but my memory is fadingForgot the precise details but whilst browsing I spotted that Gunmart described the Hatsun Escort ? as "bombproof" ie very reliable. I take it Baldrick was not the author of this particular article 'Bombproof' is journo-speak for 'of agricultural build quality'. Gunmart is the least objective shooting magazine in print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHunter Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Don't know if after 14 pages I am off topic by now - BUT I will be a Datsun owner tomorrow. Yay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Don't know if after 14 pages I am off topic by now - BUT I will be a Datsun owner tomorrow. Yay I am so sorry. You have my sympathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operator Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 If there are any datsun owners still reading this thread I am just about to buy my first shotgun and have already decided on one of these beasts, my question is what barrel length would you chaps recommend? It will mainly be for pigeons and general pest control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I use the 26" barrel, make the gun fast handling Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 If there are any datsun owners still reading this thread I am just about to buy my first shotgun and have already decided on one of these beasts, my question is what barrel length would you chaps recommend? It will mainly be for pigeons and general pest control. Get a 28" barrel, then when the choke blows out you can cut a couple of inches off it and carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) So what is wrong with Fendt's agricultural build quality there Baldrick old boy PS I would have thought that one of the Airgun mags would have won the "least objective" title Some of their reviewers must have thousands of rifles by now since they seem determined to buy every one they test As I dimly recall Edited October 1, 2009 by dieseldogg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 So what is wrong with Fendt's agricultural build quality there Baldrick old boy I'm confused, DD - I don't recall ever stating that Fendt were of poor quality. Quite the opposite, in fact, having a Fendt Vario 930 and a new Vario 936 in our shed. They're just about the finest tractors in production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGadger Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 From another thread, but relevent: RE Escorts, I have just taken delivery of a 3"/ 26"cammo 12g and I quite like it. In the words of the local RFD, "Yer either get a good'un or a bad'un". I think this might have been true of the early models. So, after reading all the stuff on here about them, (some of it fair, and some, a bit biased I think), I collected the biggest variety of 12g carts I could find or scrounge, and took it pigeon and crow shooting. It cycled everything from 28g to 42g and 2.5 to 3" cases, and the barrel got very hot. It never missed a beat. The main thing that surprised me was the noise it made, which meant that ear protectors were very much needed (compared to my 20g SP.) This was a bit annoying as I like to hear the pigeons as they come in to land on a slow day, and ear defenders make this difficult, so its on-off-on-off with them. I suspect that the quality control has had to be beefed up with these guns, probably as a result of returns and whinges from Edgars and in the US. They have probably refined the springs too. This is normal product development/refinement on any product line. Yes, it isn't a Berretta or a Browning, a thing to behold, love and pass on to your kids, but remember the scornful comments when the following things became available: Volkswagen beetles Japanese electronics Honda 50 motorbikes Honda Civic rot-boxes Mazda rot-boxes Datsun Cherrys Skoda cars Hyundai cars Baikal shotguns AYA shotguns Russian optics No-one seems to laugh at these companies or products any more. I suspect that a good deal of the comments about Escorts is that folks are seeing the S/H value of their flagship products go down with the competitiveness of these workhorses. I quite like the fact that I don't have to baby the thing in the hide. So there. FG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operator Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Cheers Alan. MC - I was hoping for some amusing advice too and you haven't dissapointed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 ForeignGadger I still laugh at beetles and skodas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Cheers Alan. MC - I was hoping for some amusing advice too and you haven't dissapointed! Only too glad to be of some assistance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGadger Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Well, fair enough on the "new" beetle, but Skodas: all the local taxi firms use them, and even Mr Plod chases ne'er-do-wells in them round here, (sport versions of the octavia) so they can't be completely ****. But look at the recent prices of AYA guns: not exactly rubbish are they? I have enjoyed this thread though! :-) (Smiley just to show I have been on the .net since the earth went cold....) FG ForeignGadger I still laugh at beetles and skodas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Well, fair enough on the "new" beetle, but Skodas: all the local taxi firms use them, and even Mr Plod chases ne'er-do-wells in them round here, (sport versions of the octavia) so they can't be completely ****. But look at the recent prices of AYA guns: not exactly rubbish are they? I have enjoyed this thread though! :-) (Smiley just to show I have been on the .net since the earth went cold....) FG I know I was just being awkward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGadger Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I have to say that I get a bit p***** off at the site moderation robot cutting out my invective. This is the Nanny state personified. (Wouldn't happen on usenet.... harrumph) FG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I have to say that I get a bit p***** off at the site moderation robot cutting out my invective.This is the Nanny state personified. (Wouldn't happen on usenet.... harrumph) FG The door is to your left, close it on your way out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGadger Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Oh dear... where have I heard this original repost before? (Many times) So, free speech and expressions of opinions are not welcomed here? Hmm.... seems the moderators are newcomers to the .net FG (just kidding.... no, really) Defend your liberties : so say PRECISELY what you think... remember Stalin, he was a ray of sunshine. The door is to your left, close it on your way out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Defend your liberties by all means but you may have noticed a set of forum rules when you signed up, they are there for us all to be bound by. Absolutely nothing wrong with free speech and opinions, just remember we all have one and it may not be the same as yours. As already said, if you don't like it the door is on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 what barrel length would you chaps recommend? It will mainly be for pigeons and general pest control. About 40 yards should do the trick. Knock 'em out the sky. No jamming problems and far quieter!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 It will mainly be for pigeons and general fence post control. Thats more like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGadger Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Oh well. thanks for your welcome. I don't feel that I have breeched the rules, but if that's the way you feel. FG Defend your liberties by all means but you may have noticed a set of forum rules when you signed up, they are there for us all to be bound by. Absolutely nothing wrong with free speech and opinions, just remember we all have one and it may not be the same as yours. As already said, if you don't like it the door is on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Exactly Baldrick I thought you might from your avatar But Fendts are built for agriculture therefore by defination of agricultural build quality therefore Hatsan Escorts must also be excellent quality Que Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Oh well. thanks for your welcome.I don't feel that I have breeched the rules, but if that's the way you feel. FG It is not the way I feel at all, it is written in the forum rules about swearing. So the swear filter blocks out swear swear words. In the words of the meerkats "SIMPLES" Everybody is welcome here I am sure, not agreeing with your opinion doesn't mean you are not welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 anyone would think this forum is a democracy, it has an owner who makes the rules, you obey or in this case get lots of nice stars in your posts. Its nothing personal but as MC says if you don't like it its not going to change so the only option is to **** off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignGadger Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 al4x : I nearly did, but your glorious bouncing blonde is keeping me here. (Hypnotic or what?) I tend to self-censor, so all the robot thing does is add a few stars to my own, which I find irritating. ( A bit like zealous traffic wardens, ignorant policemen, local council "job-worths" and the many layers of "planning" we have in the National Park, yet another layer of decisions made for one by some-one else). FG anyone would think this forum is a democracy, it has an owner who makes the rules, you obey or in this case get lots of nice stars in your posts. Its nothing personal but as MC says if you don't like it its not going to change so the only option is to **** off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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