JohnfromUK

Politicians promoting hate; MacDonnell wanting to 'lynch' Liz Truss, some Labour left promoting 'bash a tory', Corbyn supporting people who aim to achieve their ends by terrorism. The current 'hard left' factions that have hijacked the traditional Labour party are the same ilk as the Animal Lib, Hunt Sab lot - who are quite happy with hate and violence. There is a similar situation on the 'hard right' with some of the supporters of the self styled 'Tommy Robinson'. In my view, the reason the hard left and right have gained ground is the morally vacuous empty headed, wishy washy, snowflake 'liberal' middle (recent tory leadership in both Cameron and May can hardly be called right) - with whom many have become disillusioned. I hope that Johnson can bring back some 'common sense right' politics that is driven by a desire for a decent country, prosperous, caring of the genuinely needy, tough on the criminals and scroungers, lawful and orderly in which to live, not one fuelled by hate and 'class' separation.

Exactly.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7347507/Labour-turns-guns-grouse-shooters-Glorious-Twelfth.html Also on BBC radio news

That may well be true in the UK, but worldwide - I suspect the honour goes to Beretta. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta Powells were 1802 I think. I met Peter again at the Ragley game fair (2016?) and he was then on the Powell stand still doing a bit for the old firm. (This was after the sale) I always knew him as Mr. Russell. Another very helpful and always friendly man. He knew his stuff on fishing and sold me a trout reel (with 3 interchangeable spools for floating, intermediate and sinking) and rod I still have, setting the lines on the spools for me.

The Maxwell connection again; No one ever found out what happened to Robert Maxwell. His daughter was involved here.

David ran the 'business side' including the mail order business. The William Powell business was one of the first in fieldsports to develop a major catalogue mail order business. The gun making side was run by Peter Powell, who was the younger brother. Peter served as a guardian of the Birmingham Proof House as his ancestors had before him. They had been at the premises in Carrs Lane since the 1860s(?). The building was initially no 13, but later the street was renumbered and the Powell premises became no 35, Carrs Lane. I met Peter on a number of occasions and he was a very knowledgeable, friendly and helpful person, I didn't really know David. As well as having true 'Powell' guns made in Birmingham (quite a bit done 'in the trade' I believe), the introduced a 'Heritage' range which were made in Spain (by Arrietta I believe) for Powell's - something about which they were very open and stated in their catalogue (unlike some other English 'makers' who don't publicise where their guns are mainly made.) The shop was 'fronted' by Mr Russell if I remember right. I believe there was another generation (not sure if they were David's family or Peter's family), but I understand they chose other career paths. Peter and David were past 'normal retirement age' and sold the business to Mark Osborne, who now runs it from Banbury. As far as I know they no longer make guns in the UK. The current present range is sourced in Spain and Italy. The Carr's Lane premises were always a lovely quiet and hospitable place to visit right in the centre of Birmingham (beside Marks and Spencers!) I am aware that there is currently a history of the business (book) in preparation.

Absolutely right

Done, as a regular visitor to Scotland

We have a huge aircraft carrier with no aircraft and a big leak .......

More like the man in the moon!

Send a gunboat (or don't we have any?)

There is really much better value to be had in some of the 'less popular' names. A long time ago now, I saved for years and bought an SO6 (the plain one, not EELL) - I had wanted one for ages and loved it - but despite having it fitted, I have not shot consistently well with it (though it has had some great days). Much later I bought a sidelock Merkel - quite old, but of a similar 'quality' to the SO, but as a used example, mush less costly ............ and I shoot much better with it. It may be worth you looking around at other 'delux grade' guns. I know that it isn't everyone's cup of tea - and nice wood and engraving does nothing for the shooting - but I do like it myself.

In a way, we are the elite - because we enjoy the great countryside, its flora and fauna and the opportunities they provide.

As has been said - This. What often happens is that many nominally 6 volt devices need about 5.0 Volts as an absolute minimum. 4 x standard alkaline batteries will give about 4 x 1.7 = 6.8 Volts when brand new - declining over their life to about 4 x 1.3 = 5.2 Volts - so the unit uses all of the power in the batteries and they last a good time. 4 x NiMH rechargeable batteries will give about 4 x 1.3 = 5.2 Volts when new and just out of the charger - declining over their life to about 4 x 1.1 = 4.4 Volts - so the unit will fail due to flat batteries very quickly. This leads to lots of complaints to the vendor that it 'eats batteries', so they usually specify alkaline non re-chargeable batteries. In addition, some rechargeables don't retain charge all that long (high self discharge). Some cheaper types can loose a significant part of their charge in a month even when not used. Rechargeables are very good at high current draw and work very well in high powered torches, motor applications etc. They are much less good in low current applications such as 'remotes' for TVs, intruder alarm and wireless sensors, CCTV, standby applications etc, where they draw a low current for a long period.

What I want to make crystal clear are; Both Tory and Labour committed to honouring the referendum - as did ALL of their candidates standing on their manifestos IT was made VERY CLEAR that no deal was a fallback if we couldn't get 'a good deal' A deal WAS negotiated and was recommended by the Government ...... but rejected as a bad deal THREE TIMES by Parliament. Labour who claim they want a deal and won't take a 'no deal' consistently whipped against voting for the only deal the EU has offered It is therefore NOT UNREASONABLE to be falling back on a no deal, since the EU has said they will not negotiate on the deal offered further To those (especially Parliamentarians and MPs) claiming they didn't ever expect a 'no deal' the paper trail to where we are now is very clear and has been a direct consequence of Parliaments own actions.

This is developing into a very bizarre situation; There was a vote on membership - which the government promised to follow - it came out as leave. The government (by triggering Article 50 which parliament passed with a large majority) committed to leave with no deal CLEARLY mentioned as 'better than a bad deal'' at the end of March 2019 There was a general election with BOTH main parties (Tory and Labour) promising to honour Article 50 in their manifestos on which all candidates campaigned. A deal was put to Parliament on three occasions - which they rejected every time as a 'bad deal' - and the architect of that deal (May) resigned and was replaced (by Johnson). The end March 2019 deadline was missed and extended to end October 2019 Johnson has told the EU what we need in a deal that he thinks he can get passed by Parliament (basically no 'backstop') The EU says they will not remove article 50 and will not renegotiate the leave agreement (despite it having been rejected by Parliament as a bad deal) So we are at the 'no deal is better than a bad deal' state where the only 'deal' offered is a bad one (Parliaments decision) and both main parties manifestos agreed on leaving with terms where the no deal was a clearly stated 'fall back' in the case of a 'bad deal'. Now the Labour Shadow Chancellor is suggesting he will send someone to the Queen to tell her how to do her job and the Leader of the Labour party is trying to give instructions to the Cabinet Secretary. People who both campaigned in their manifesto on honouring article 50 (which I believe they both voted for) I would like to see a deal - but for me as I have said several times in this thread - there can be no 'backstop' which prevents us leaving at our choice in the event that deals on future trade, fishing etc cannot be reached (and the French have already said they will only sign a fishing deal if they retain full rights over our waters). The whole thing was about regaining control - and a backstop is totally contrary to that. Therefore IF the backstop isn't removed from the deal offered, we cannot agree to that deal - so on October 31st, no deal it is. Over to the EU.

9500 is from 1893

I have two Powells; Gun No 4661 is a bar in wood hammer non ejector made 1871 Gun 12837 is a sidelock ejector made 1921. The serial number is engraved on the tang behind the trigger guard, and on the steel 'barrel side' of the forend, as well as on the barrels themselves.

Agreed - that is how mine was done. The electrician who did it said it is quite in order. My cooker has a large glass 'splashback' that prevents the switch being on the same side. It cannot go either side of the splashback as door one side, sink the other.

McDonnell - This is the man who called for a female minister (Eshter McVey) to be lynched (and has consistently refused to apologise or withdraw the call), supports IRA terrorists (calling them martyrs), admires Venezuala's Hugo Chavez and his economic system and suggests Britain default on its debt , wants to break up the UK by ditching Northern Ireland and Scotland, - and now he wants to stage what amounts to a coup in the UK. Well - they have a guard at Buckingham Palace. They know their duties.

I spoke to a friend last night who went this year (on the Friday). I didn't go this year but we have met up at the game fair every year for many years until this year when I 'missed' (Hatfield isn't very close and involves the dreaded Friday evening traffic for me coming home). I did go to Hatfield 2 years ago. He said it was OK, but very confusingly laid out - and not as good as previous fairs. Several people from round here avoid Hatfield due to the travel, but Ragley is a regular for them. I hope to go next year - Ragley is not far for me to go.

Couldn't build anything when I couldn't move my arms! 😁

Barbour - the worst coats I have ever had! I had 2 of the old waxed cotton ones - the heavy one was unusable in cold weather as it became about as stiff as a suit of armour. The light one was nicer to wear - but wore through at the folds (especially elbows) quickly - and again after (Barbours very good) repair. I moved to an early Musto - which has been superb and has done maybe 25 - 30 seasons now (albeit now looking scruffy but it is still nearly 100% watertight). I did add a Barbour (I think called silkoil?) lightweight that after a couple of years went rotten and 'slimy'. I now have a Schoeffel (for best) which feels a bit 'flimsy', but holds up OK so far, and the old Musto still (for rough).

I was in a situation a few years ago where a tenant owed me a few £K. I took legal advice and it was quickly established that said tenant owed money to various places - including a significant amount to the Inland Revenue. Advice was that unless the tennants assets were enough to cover the highest priority creditors (the Inland Revenue and possibly others) and have leftover that I might have a claim on - don't bother. You need to know who any other possible creditors are and whether there are sufficient assets likely to be left after the highest priority people are paid. In my case - it was not worthwhile and I had to bite the bullet and write of the debt. The tenants assets were unlikely to cover the amount due to the Inland Revenue.

An example; The French and Spanish fishing fleets take a lot of their catch in UK waters. IF (as is widely expected) this is restricted/prevented in future, French and Spanish fisherfolk may either blockade ports (the French have form in this area) - or be supported by Port Officials (possibly tacitly backed up by local/regional/central government) to disrupt fresh food supplies 'in retaliation'. Fresh food (salads, veggies etc.) have a short life and cannot easily be frozen. And that is just one example.